Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type

Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> Wed, 25 October 2017 15:15 UTC

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From: Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:14:58 -0600
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Subject: Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: link-relations <link-relations@ietf.org>, Geoffrey Bilder <gbilder@crossref.org>, Michael Nelson <mln@cs.odu.edu>, Simeon Warner <simeon.warner@cornell.edu>, "John A. Kunze" <jak@ucop.edu>, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:

> Hi Herbert,
>
> That sounds reasonable; a bit chicken-and-egg, but I think the relation
> name is specific enough where it's pretty low risk.
>
> Since RFC8288 just got published, would you mind out trying out our new
> process by filing an issue over here?
>
>   https://github.com/link-relations/registry/
>
>
Done. Issue at https://github.com/link-relations/registry/issues/1

Cheers

Herbert



> Cheers,
>
>
> On 13 Oct 2017, at 7:22 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>
>> OK. Normally, the registration is made as part of the publication
>> process, in the case of RFCs; I don't think we'll have any issues approving
>> this registration, given the discussion we've had.
>>
>> We can register it earlier, if there's a need. However, we generally
>> prefer to do the registration when the document is published, in case
>> there's a last-minute change, or the document doesn't make it for some
>> reason.
>>
>>
> Understood.
>
>
>> Do you need registration before the document is published?
>>
>>
> If possible, we would like that indeed because there are operational and
> ongoing implementations of the intended relation type. These have, thus
> far, used "identifier" as per the discussion that was had here. But I would
> like to be able to get in touch asap with known developers & update the
> recommendations at http://signposting.org regarding the change from
> "identifier" to "cite-as". I am pretty sure that developers would
> appreciate knowing that the relation type will not change anymore beyond
> the current change from "identifier" to "cite-as". Registration of
> "cite-as" would significantly help with that regard.
>
> Cheers
>
> Herbert
>
>
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> > On 11 Oct 2017, at 1:49 pm, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>> > Hi Herbert,
>> >
>> > That looks good. Are you planning to publish this as Informational
>> through the Independent Submission Editor, or get it sponsored by a WG or AD
>> >
>> >
>> > I had thought independent submission, if acceptable.
>> >
>> > Greetings
>> >
>> > Herbert
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 10 Oct 2017, at 8:59 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear
>> > >
>> > > I would like to register the following relation type:
>> > >
>> > > * Relation Name: cite-as
>> > >
>> > > * Description: A link with the "cite-as" relation type indicates that
>> the link target is preferred over the link context for the purpose of
>> referencing.
>> > >
>> > > * Reference: Van de Sompel, H., Nelson, M.L., Bilder, G., Kunze, J.,
>> and Warner, S. (August 2017) cite-as: A Link Relation to Convey a Preferred
>> URI for Referencing. https://datatracker.ietf.org/d
>> oc/draft-vandesompel-citeas/
>> > >
>> > > This request to register "cite-as" is the result of a prior attempt
>> to register "identifier". Significant concerns were voiced regarding
>> "identifier" and, as a result, the co-authors of the I-D decided to settle
>> on "cite-as", which was proposed during the discussions of "identifier".
>> > >
>> > > The request to register "cite-as" on the basis of ID-00 is motivated
>> by ongoing adoption of various patterns for using link relation types in
>> scholarly communication, see http://signposting.org. As soon as
>> "cite-as" is registered:
>> > >
>> > > - Existing implementations will be asked to change their use of
>> "identifier" to "cite-as"
>> > >
>> > > - Documentation will be updated to reflect the change from
>> "identifier" to "cite-as" at http://signposting.org/identifier/
>> > >
>> > > Greetings
>> > >
>> > > Herbert Van de Sompel
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Herbert Van de Sompel
>> > > Digital Library Research & Prototyping
>> > > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library
>> > > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/
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>>
>>
>
>
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> Herbert Van de Sompel
> Digital Library Research & Prototyping
> Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library
> http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/
> http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0715-6126
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> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
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Herbert Van de Sompel
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