Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type
Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> Wed, 25 October 2017 15:15 UTC
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From: Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:14:58 -0600
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Subject: Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: link-relations <link-relations@ietf.org>, Geoffrey Bilder <gbilder@crossref.org>, Michael Nelson <mln@cs.odu.edu>, Simeon Warner <simeon.warner@cornell.edu>, "John A. Kunze" <jak@ucop.edu>, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote: > Hi Herbert, > > That sounds reasonable; a bit chicken-and-egg, but I think the relation > name is specific enough where it's pretty low risk. > > Since RFC8288 just got published, would you mind out trying out our new > process by filing an issue over here? > > https://github.com/link-relations/registry/ > > Done. Issue at https://github.com/link-relations/registry/issues/1 Cheers Herbert > Cheers, > > > On 13 Oct 2017, at 7:22 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote: > >> OK. Normally, the registration is made as part of the publication >> process, in the case of RFCs; I don't think we'll have any issues approving >> this registration, given the discussion we've had. >> >> We can register it earlier, if there's a need. However, we generally >> prefer to do the registration when the document is published, in case >> there's a last-minute change, or the document doesn't make it for some >> reason. >> >> > Understood. > > >> Do you need registration before the document is published? >> >> > If possible, we would like that indeed because there are operational and > ongoing implementations of the intended relation type. These have, thus > far, used "identifier" as per the discussion that was had here. But I would > like to be able to get in touch asap with known developers & update the > recommendations at http://signposting.org regarding the change from > "identifier" to "cite-as". I am pretty sure that developers would > appreciate knowing that the relation type will not change anymore beyond > the current change from "identifier" to "cite-as". Registration of > "cite-as" would significantly help with that regard. > > Cheers > > Herbert > > > >> Cheers, >> >> >> > On 11 Oct 2017, at 1:49 pm, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote: >> > Hi Herbert, >> > >> > That looks good. Are you planning to publish this as Informational >> through the Independent Submission Editor, or get it sponsored by a WG or AD >> > >> > >> > I had thought independent submission, if acceptable. >> > >> > Greetings >> > >> > Herbert >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 10 Oct 2017, at 8:59 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear >> > > >> > > I would like to register the following relation type: >> > > >> > > * Relation Name: cite-as >> > > >> > > * Description: A link with the "cite-as" relation type indicates that >> the link target is preferred over the link context for the purpose of >> referencing. >> > > >> > > * Reference: Van de Sompel, H., Nelson, M.L., Bilder, G., Kunze, J., >> and Warner, S. (August 2017) cite-as: A Link Relation to Convey a Preferred >> URI for Referencing. https://datatracker.ietf.org/d >> oc/draft-vandesompel-citeas/ >> > > >> > > This request to register "cite-as" is the result of a prior attempt >> to register "identifier". Significant concerns were voiced regarding >> "identifier" and, as a result, the co-authors of the I-D decided to settle >> on "cite-as", which was proposed during the discussions of "identifier". >> > > >> > > The request to register "cite-as" on the basis of ID-00 is motivated >> by ongoing adoption of various patterns for using link relation types in >> scholarly communication, see http://signposting.org. As soon as >> "cite-as" is registered: >> > > >> > > - Existing implementations will be asked to change their use of >> "identifier" to "cite-as" >> > > >> > > - Documentation will be updated to reflect the change from >> "identifier" to "cite-as" at http://signposting.org/identifier/ >> > > >> > > Greetings >> > > >> > > Herbert Van de Sompel >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Herbert Van de Sompel >> > > Digital Library Research & Prototyping >> > > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library >> > > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ >> > > http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0715-6126 >> > > >> > > == >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > link-relations mailing list >> > > link-relations@ietf.org >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations >> > >> > -- >> > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Herbert Van de Sompel >> > Digital Library Research & Prototyping >> > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library >> > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ >> > http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0715-6126 >> > >> > == >> >> -- >> Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >> >> > > > -- > Herbert Van de Sompel > Digital Library Research & Prototyping > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ > http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0715-6126 > > == > > > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > > -- Herbert Van de Sompel Digital Library Research & Prototyping Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0715-6126 ==
- request to register "cite-as" relation type Herbert Van de Sompel
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Peter Williams
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Jan Algermissen
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Edward Summers
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Michael Nelson
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Mark Nottingham
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Herbert Van de Sompel
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Mark Nottingham
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Herbert Van de Sompel
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Frank Ellermann
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Mark Nottingham
- Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type Herbert Van de Sompel