Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type

Frank Ellermann <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Fri, 13 October 2017 16:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type
To: Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, link-relations <link-relations@ietf.org>
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A nice "happiana" test case for 5988bis.

On 12 October 2017 at 22:22, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>
>> OK. Normally, the registration is made as part of the publication process,
>> in the case of RFCs; I don't think we'll have any issues approving this
>> registration, given the discussion we've had.
>>
>> We can register it earlier, if there's a need. However, we generally
>> prefer to do the registration when the document is published, in case
>> there's a last-minute change, or the document doesn't make it for some
>> reason.
>>
>
> Understood.
>
>>
>> Do you need registration before the document is published?
>>
>
> If possible, we would like that indeed because there are operational and
> ongoing implementations of the intended relation type. These have, thus far,
> used "identifier" as per the discussion that was had here. But I would like
> to be able to get in touch asap with known developers & update the
> recommendations at http://signposting.org regarding the change from
> "identifier" to "cite-as". I am pretty sure that developers would appreciate
> knowing that the relation type will not change anymore beyond the current
> change from "identifier" to "cite-as". Registration of "cite-as" would
> significantly help with that regard.
>
> Cheers
>
> Herbert
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> > On 11 Oct 2017, at 1:49 pm, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>> > Hi Herbert,
>> >
>> > That looks good. Are you planning to publish this as Informational
>> > through the Independent Submission Editor, or get it sponsored by a WG or AD
>> >
>> >
>> > I had thought independent submission, if acceptable.
>> >
>> > Greetings
>> >
>> > Herbert
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 10 Oct 2017, at 8:59 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear
>> > >
>> > > I would like to register the following relation type:
>> > >
>> > > * Relation Name: cite-as
>> > >
>> > > * Description: A link with the "cite-as" relation type indicates that
>> > > the link target is preferred over the link context for the purpose of
>> > > referencing.
>> > >
>> > > * Reference: Van de Sompel, H., Nelson, M.L., Bilder, G., Kunze, J.,
>> > > and Warner, S. (August 2017) cite-as: A Link Relation to Convey a Preferred
>> > > URI for Referencing.
>> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandesompel-citeas/
>> > >
>> > > This request to register "cite-as" is the result of a prior attempt to
>> > > register "identifier". Significant concerns were voiced regarding
>> > > "identifier" and, as a result, the co-authors of the I-D decided to settle
>> > > on "cite-as", which was proposed during the discussions of "identifier".
>> > >
>> > > The request to register "cite-as" on the basis of ID-00 is motivated
>> > > by ongoing adoption of various patterns for using link relation types in
>> > > scholarly communication, see http://signposting.org. As soon as "cite-as" is
>> > > registered:
>> > >
>> > > - Existing implementations will be asked to change their use of
>> > > "identifier" to "cite-as"
>> > >
>> > > - Documentation will be updated to reflect the change from
>> > > "identifier" to "cite-as" at http://signposting.org/identifier/
>> > >
>> > > Greetings
>> > >
>> > > Herbert Van de Sompel
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Herbert Van de Sompel
>> > > Digital Library Research & Prototyping
>> > > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library
>> > > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/
>> > > http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0715-6126
>> > >
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>> >
>> >
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>> > Herbert Van de Sompel
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>> > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/
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>> >
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>> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
>>
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