Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Thu, 12 October 2017 20:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:14:34 -0700
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OK. Normally, the registration is made as part of the publication process, in the case of RFCs; I don't think we'll have any issues approving this registration, given the discussion we've had.

We can register it earlier, if there's a need. However, we generally prefer to do the registration when the document is published, in case there's a last-minute change, or the document doesn't make it for some reason.

Do you need registration before the document is published?

Cheers,


> On 11 Oct 2017, at 1:49 pm, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> Hi Herbert,
> 
> That looks good. Are you planning to publish this as Informational through the Independent Submission Editor, or get it sponsored by a WG or AD
> 
> 
> I had thought independent submission, if acceptable.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Herbert
> 
>  
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
> > On 10 Oct 2017, at 8:59 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear
> >
> > I would like to register the following relation type:
> >
> > * Relation Name: cite-as
> >
> > * Description: A link with the "cite-as" relation type indicates that the link target is preferred over the link context for the purpose of referencing.
> >
> > * Reference: Van de Sompel, H., Nelson, M.L., Bilder, G., Kunze, J., and Warner, S. (August 2017) cite-as: A Link Relation to Convey a Preferred URI for Referencing. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandesompel-citeas/
> >
> > This request to register "cite-as" is the result of a prior attempt to register "identifier". Significant concerns were voiced regarding "identifier" and, as a result, the co-authors of the I-D decided to settle on "cite-as", which was proposed during the discussions of "identifier".
> >
> > The request to register "cite-as" on the basis of ID-00 is motivated by ongoing adoption of various patterns for using link relation types in scholarly communication, see http://signposting.org. As soon as "cite-as" is registered:
> >
> > - Existing implementations will be asked to change their use of "identifier" to "cite-as"
> >
> > - Documentation will be updated to reflect the change from "identifier" to "cite-as" at http://signposting.org/identifier/
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Herbert Van de Sompel
> >
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> Herbert Van de Sompel
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