Re: [lisp] Fwd: FW: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Fri, 12 June 2015 16:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] Fwd: FW: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship
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I’ve also seen this problem when non-consenting names appear in the Acknowledgement section.

Dino

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> 
> FYI.  I am not aware of any instance of this problem in our working group, but you should know the policy anyway.
> Yours,
> Joel
> 
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> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: FW: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:35:53 +0000
> From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com>
> To: rtg-chairs@ietf.org <rtg-chairs@ietf.org>
> 
> Not everyone pays attention to the ietf-list, you may want to distribute on your wg lists-
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:32 PM
> To: IETF Announcement List
> Subject: IESG Statement on Internet Draft Authorship
> 
> The IESG has received some reports of IETF participants having been
> listed as document authors on drafts without their consent ("surprised
> authorship"). In some cases, the surprised authors had never seen the
> draft that surprised them. It appears that some draft authors think that
> including other participants as authors is a way to show support for the
> concepts in the document and gain acceptance for those concepts. This
> may be thought of as especially useful if the additional authors are
> established IETF participants.
> 
> Adding names of IETF participants who did not actually work on a
> proposal might seem to be a low-risk way of demonstrating "support", but
> this is very clearly not an acceptable practice: no one should ever be
> added to the list of authors on a draft unless that person has consented
> to it and has contributed significantly to the development of the draft.
> 
> The practice of adding surprised authors is
> 
>  - not in line with the IETF culture, where it's the technical issues
>    that matter, not who the authors or supporters are;
>  - unethical, as it is wrong to claim support from someone who has not
>    consented to it;
>  - misleading in terms of support; and
>  - problematic in terms of IPR disclosures (BCPs 78 and 79).
> 
> To emphasize this last point, the person submitting an Internet-Draft is
> asserting that "This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance
> with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79". A submitter who has not
> discussed this with all the listed authors cannot make that claim, and
> this can cause procedural and legal problems later.
> 
> All authors need to be aware of the ​RFC Editor's statement on
> authorship [1], especially as it relates to responsibility for the
> document's contents. The IESG strongly recommends that all drafts have
> explicit permission from all authors to have their names listed before
> the draft is submitted.
> 
> If you feel that you are impacted by the above issues, please talk to
> your Area Director or contact the IESG by ​sending email to
> <iesg@ietf.org>. As the administrator of the I-D repository (regardless
> of the source or intended stream for the draft), the IESG will handle
> each case of disputed authorship on a case-by-base basis. All reports
> will be investigated, and substantiated claims will be met with
> corrective actions.
> 
> The default corrective action will be the replacement of the offending
> draft with a "disputed authorship" tombstone. Such a tombstone would:
> 
>  - Be published as a successor to the offending draft,
>  - Have the offended IETF participant listed as the only author,
>  - Will state "The author listed on this tombstone Internet-Draft has
>    stated that he/she should not have been listed as an author on the
>    previous version. The IETF considers being added as an author
>    without one's permission as unethical. The default behaviour of the
>    IESG in such cases is to approve replacement of the offending draft
>    with this tombstone. Please direct any queries to the author listed
>    here."
> 
> [1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-interest/2015-May/008869.html
> 
> 
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