Re: [lisp] Fwd: #202719 - Re: LISP EID prefix 2001:5:3::/48

["Joel M. Halpern" <[e-mail]>]

We asked for an experiment.  As such, we need to re-evaluate the experiment.
You said "I am using it".   As I said, I presume that is a 
mis-statement.  Who is using EIDs from that block?  What are they being 
used for?  Is having a block actually helpful?

In particular, given that our focus as a working group has moved away 
from Internet-Wide deployments of LISP to more specialized use cases, it 
is not at all clear that the PS-to-be documents warrant the allocation.

Yours,
Joel

On 8/1/2019 2:38 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>> If only one person is using the block after all this time, then yes, we as a working group want RIPE to stop allocating experimental EIDs.
> 
> You are missing the point Joel. There are many sub-blocks allocated from the experimental block from RFC 7955. I am not the only sub-block.
> 
>> If there is significant usage, then we should understand what it is and why.
> 
> What if there is *any* usage for any subblock?
> 
> Dino
> 
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>>
>> On 8/1/2019 2:33 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>>> No, its not about me. RIPE wants to stop allocating experimental EID blocks. Do we, the LISP WG, want that to happen?
>>> Dino
>>>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Joel M. Halpern <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am presuming your phrasing is slightly misleading.  If you individually are the only user of the block, I do not see how we can justify asking RIPE to continue the assignment.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Joel
>>>>
>>>> On 8/1/2019 1:00 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
>>>>> I am still using this block but RIPE wants to remove it per IETF recommendations. Should we update RFC 7955 to indicate the “experiment” is still continuing?
>>>>> Dino
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *RIPE NCC Support <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>>>>> *Subject: **#202719 - Re: LISP EID prefix 2001:5:3::/48*
>>>>>> *Date: *August 1, 2019 at 5:09:09 AM PDT
>>>>>> *To: *farinacci <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>>>>> *Reply-To: *RIPE NCC Support <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *Mike Petrusha*(RIPE NCC Support)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aug 1, 14:09 CEST
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The RIPE NCC have assigned LISP EID prefix 2001:5:3::/48 tolispers.net <http://lispers.net/>on 2016-11-16.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The assigned prefix will be removed on 31 August 2019.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to RFC 7955,https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7955
>>>>>> "According to the 3+3 year experimentation plan, defined in
>>>>>> [RFC 7954  <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7954>], all registrations MUST end by August 2019, unless
>>>>>> the IETF community decides to grant a permanent LISP EID
>>>>>> address block."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Petrusha
>>>>>> RIPE NCC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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