Re: [lisp] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-20: (with COMMENT)

Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> Fri, 28 September 2018 11:57 UTC

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From: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
To: Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net>, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [lisp] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-20: (with COMMENT)
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On Fri, Sep 28, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
> Hi Alexey,
> 
> > On 27 Sep 2018, at 19:31, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Ok, maybe this is just me, but you don't actually define how to hash these
> >> things, you are only talking about what needs to be covered by the hash. I
> >> appreciate that picking a specific hashing algorithm is probably not relevant
> >> for interoperability, but I feel adding a specific algorithm (as an example or
> >> via a pointer) would improve the document.
> > 
> > We decided to leave this to the implementation and is a local matter ot the encapsulator. Most implementations use a “folded XOR”. Which means XOR the set of 32-bit fields from the 5-tuple hash, then XOR the 2 16-bit quantities, then XOR the 2 bytes. Mod the number of best priority RLOCs, to give you an index to choose one.
> 
> While you are right that what is in the document is just what can be 
> covered by the hash,  
> I agree with Dino on this point.
> 
> I do not think that we need a specific algorithm even as an example. 
> The load-sharing is local to the ITR, it just need to use any algorithm 
> that does that.
> 
> Would you prefer a clear statement?

Yes.

> Something like:
> 
> “The specific algorithm the ITR uses for load-sharing is out of the 
> scope of this document and does not prevent interoperability" 

Sounds good to me. Thank you.

> Ciao
> 
> L.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Dino
> > 
>