Re: [lisp] Confirm/Deny changes on draft 6830bis

Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> Mon, 15 January 2018 09:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] Confirm/Deny changes on draft 6830bis
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Should I review 09 or 08?

But please once you reply to this mail than you stick to the decision until I review the document.

L.


> On 13 Jan 2018, at 19:30, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Here is a -09 proposal to add your requested change C below. All the other points are still open for discussion.
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> Dino
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> <draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-09.txt>
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>> On Jan 12, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Albert Cabellos <albert.cabellos@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> As editor of 6830bis I´d like to confirm or deny the following changes which I believe have support. 
>> 
>> Please note that I have intentionally ignored minor/editorial changes to help sync all the participants. I hope that the list below captures the most relevant ones.
>> 
>> Also note that I don´t necessarily agree with all the changes listed below, but that´s an opinion with a different hat.
>> 
>> WG: Please CONFIRM or DENY:
>> 
>> -------
>> 
>> A.- Remove definitions of PA and PI
>> 
>> B.- Change definitions of EID and RLOC as ‘identifier of the overlay’ and ‘identifier of the underlay’ respectively. 
>> 
>> C.- In section 5.3, change the description of the encap/decap operation concerning how to deal with ECN and DSCP bits to (new text needs to be validated by experts):
>> 
>> When doing ITR/PITR encapsulation:
>> 
>> o  The outer-header 'Time to Live' field (or 'Hop Limit' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the inner-header 'Time to Live' field.
>> 
>> o  The outer-header 'Differentiated Services Code Point' (DSCP) field (or the 'Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the inner-header DSCP field ('Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) considering the exception listed below.
>> 
>> o  The 'Explicit Congestion Notification' (ECN) field (bits 6 and 7 of the IPv6 'Traffic Class' field) requires special treatment in order to avoid discarding indications of congestion [RFC3168]. ITR encapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit 'ECN' field from the inner header to the outer header. Re-encapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit 'ECN' field from the stripped outer header to the new outer header.
>> 
>> When doing ETR/PETR decapsulation:
>> 
>> o  The inner-header 'Time to Live' field (or 'Hop Limit' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the outer-header 'Time to Live' field, when the Time to Live value of the outer header is less than the Time to Live value of the inner header.  Failing to perform this check can cause the Time to Live of the inner header to increment across encapsulation/decapsulation cycles.  This check is also performed when doing initial encapsulation, when a packet comes to an ITR or PITR destined for a LISP site.
>> 
>> o  The inner-header 'Differentiated Services Code Point' (DSCP) field (or the 'Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) SHOULD be copied from the outer-header DSCP field ('Traffic Class' field, in the case of IPv6) considering the exception listed below.
>> 
>> o  The 'Explicit Congestion Notification' (ECN) field (bits 6 and 7 of the IPv6 'Traffic Class' field) requires special treatment in order to avoid discarding indications of congestion [RFC3168]. If the 'ECN' field contains a congestion indication codepoint (the value is '11', the Congestion Experienced (CE) codepoint), then ETR decapsulation MUST copy the 2-bit 'ECN' field from the stripped outer header to the surviving inner header that is used to forward the packet beyond the ETR.  These requirements preserve CE indications when a packet that uses ECN traverses a LISP tunnel and becomes marked with a CE indication due to congestion between the tunnel endpoints.
>> 
>> Note that if an ETR/PETR is also an ITR/PITR and chooses to re-encapsulate after decapsulating, the net effect of this is that the new outer header will carry the same Time to Live as the old outer header minus 1.
>> 
>> Copying the Time to Live (TTL) serves two purposes: first, it preserves the distance the host intended the packet to travel; second, and more importantly, it provides for suppression of looping packets in the event there is a loop of concatenated tunnels due to misconfiguration.  See Section 18.3 for TTL exception handling for traceroute packets.
>> 
>> D.- Simplify section ‘Router Locator Selection’ stating that the data-plane MUST follow what´s stored in the map-cache (priorities and weights), the remaining text should go to an OAM document.
>> 
>> E.- Rewrite Section “Routing Locator Reachability” considering the following changes:
>> 
>> *    Keep bullet point 1 (examine LSB), 6 (receiving a data-packet) and Echo-Nonce
>> *    Move to 6833bis bullet point 2 (ICMP Network/Host Unreachable),3 (hints from BGP),4 (ICMP Port Unreachable),5 (receive a Map-Reply as a response) and RLOC probing
>> 
>> 
>> F.- Move Solicit-Map-Request to 6833bis
>> 
>> G.- Move sections 16 (Mobility Considerations), 17 (xTR Placement Considerations), 18 (Traceroute Consideration) to a new OAM document
>> 
>> 
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