Re: [lisp] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-02

The document is very clear that any potential transition to permanent 
allocation would have to be discussed and coordianted with multiple 
parties, including the RIRs.

Equally, until such time as a permanent allocation is made, the document 
is not declaring the RIRs to be "the " allocation authority.  If the 
RIRs can and wish to engage in LISP EID allocation in accordance with 
the policy, they can.  But the document does not promise the role to them.

It may, or may not, make sesen if and when we do a permanent allocation 
to specify a role for the RIRs.  That however will be negotiated then.

Yours,
Joel

On 10/8/14, 2:15 PM, Marc Binderberger wrote:
> Hello Joel, authors and lisp list,
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> while I think the document is overall reasonably written it has one problem:
> it's bound to an proposed EID address block that has no guaranteed end of
> life.
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> If this experiment would clearly terminate after 3+3 years then I would say
> it's good to go. It's not the way the RIRs have written their documents but I
> think that's okay for a experiment and a 6 year time frame. But the proposals
> allow the requested /32 EID block to be turned into something permanently.
> For a permanent EID block it's reasonable to assume the RIRs deal with the
> allocation/assignment work ([1]) and then the document would need more
> alignment with RIR policy documents. A simple example would be the language,
> "allocation" is used throughout while "assignment" is only mentioned in the
> Introduction. I checked both ARIN and RIPE and it's clearly defined there.
> It's also going too far in telling IANA to not have a regional policy.
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> So in short (and in all honesty): not feeling comfortable with the document
> in the context of a potential permanent impact of the document.
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> Regards, Marc
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> [1]: if the proposal is to have finally an additional authority beside the
> RIRs for address allocation then I would reject the proposal.
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> On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 09:14:16 -0400, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> The work on the draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-02 seems done and the
>> authors requested a work group last call.
>>
>> This email starts a 14 day WG last call, to end CoB PDT October 22, 2014.
>>
>> You will find the document here:
>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-mgmnt-02.txt
>>
>> Please review this WG document.  Let the working group know if you agree
>> that it is ready for handing to the AD, or if you see issues with it. If
>> you see issues, please be as specific as possible about the problems, and
>> if possible suggest text to resolve them.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Joel
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