Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lisp-rfc8113bis-01
"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Wed, 19 December 2018 04:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lisp-rfc8113bis-01
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Authors: that sounds like a reasonable addition to me? Yours, Joel On 12/18/18 10:48 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 2018-12-19 15:46, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >> This is part of the package to move the coherent set of base LISP specs >> to PS. >> >> The reason we did this rather than folding it into 6830bis / 6833bis is >> that we had originally simply cited 8113, and then realized that needed >> to move to PS along with everything else. It seemed (and is) simpler to >> do it separately rather than to further modify 6830bis / 6933bis. >> >> As for why it updates 6833bis, that is because one of the cahnges in >> moving the set to PS was to improve the split as to which information >> belonged in which document. > > OK, but I still don't find it logical The text doesn't explain which part of > 6833bis is impacted, and normally these days we require such an explanation. > And if there is an impact, you're missing the opportunity of fixing the error > or gap in 6833bis, so the reader of 6833bis will be none the wiser unless > you insert a reference to 8113bis. > > On the other hand, if there is no error or gap, you don't need "Updates:" > at all. (Unfortunately, we don't have an "Extends:" header.) > > Brian > >> >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> On 12/18/18 9:25 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: >>> Reviewer: Brian Carpenter >>> Review result: Ready with Issues >>> >>> Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-lisp-rfc8113bis-01 >>> >>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area >>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >>> by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just >>> like any other last call comments. >>> >>> For more information, please see the FAQ at >>> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. >>> >>> Document: draft-ietf-lisp-rfc8113bis-01.txt >>> Reviewer: Brian Carpenter >>> Review Date: 2018-12-19 >>> IETF LC End Date: 2018-12-27 >>> IESG Telechat date: >>> >>> Summary: Ready with issues >>> -------- >>> >>> Comments: >>> --------- >>> >>> I note that this is being raised from Experimental to the standards track. >>> Presumably that depends on the base LISP spec becoming PS. >>> >>> Minor issues: >>> ------------- >>> >>> "This document updates I-D.ietf-lisp-rfc6833bis." The text doesn't >>> explain which text is updated. This is in contrast to RFC8113, which >>> explains clearly how it updates RFC6830 (*not* RFC6833). Why doesn't >>> this draft claim to update rfc6830bis? I'm going to assume that >>> is an error. >>> >>> In fact, why wasn't the definition of the LISP Packet Types registry >>> moved into the base spec (rfc6830bis)? That is where it belongs. >>> >>> Since rfc6830bis (and rfc6833bis) are still under IESG review, anything >>> in them that needs updating should be updated! The fact is that rfc8113bis >>> extends rfc6830bis, which is not the same thing as "updates". >>> If the WG thinks that implementers of 6830bis need to read 8113bis, >>> there should be a normative reference in 6830bis to 8113bis. >>> >>> >> >
- [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lisp… Brian Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Brian E Carpenter