Re: [lisp] Restarting last call on LISP threats

Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> Mon, 19 May 2014 14:14 UTC

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From: Ronald Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
To: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>, Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>
Thread-Topic: [lisp] Restarting last call on LISP threats
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Subject: Re: [lisp] Restarting last call on LISP threats
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Dino,

The Spoofer Project (http://spoofer.cmand.org/summary.php) offers a longitudinal view of BCP 38 deployment. I think that the results that they report validate Sander's objection. Furthermore, they may suggest that Sander's objection will remain valid for years to come.

                                                                                                                                   Ron


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:farinacci@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:37 PM
> To: Sander Steffann
> Cc: Ronald Bonica; Roger Jorgensen; lisp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [lisp] Restarting last call on LISP threats
> 
> > Unfortunately this is not unlikely :(  I certainly wouldn't consider it an
> amazing feat... BCP38 is not implemented as much as it should be.
> 
> I know there are many cases where BCP38 is not practice but more and more
> access providers due uRPF.
> 
> You only need one in the path. And the ones that don't do it are using
> resources to transit packets to possible black holes.
> 
> Dino