Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases
Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Tue, 23 April 2024 16:25 UTC
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From: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases
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My preference is to update RFC 8060. Dino > On Apr 23, 2024, at 12:24 PM, Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote: > > From where I sit, doing nothing should be a non-starter. We have a published RFC. We are allowed to change our mind. > > But... > > 1) We need to be explicit about making such a change. Which involves updating the existing RFC. > > 2) Any such change needs to explain why it is being changed. Just because a later implementation did it differently, without a standard, does not justify changing the standard. If there is an actual benefit to the change we should step up, admit we are changing it, and explain why. > > Yours, > > Joel > > On 4/23/2024 11:48 AM, Dino Farinacci wrote: >>> As I said, the simplest solution is to use a different type value. This allows to still use the old encoding and does not obsoletes implementations that use it. >> You will obsolete implementations if we do that. Which really means you make the spec irrelevant. So I say stay with the same code point. >> >>> Option B. This document officially updates 8060, but this means that existing implementation of the 8060 encoding are not valid anymore. >> Right. But so much time has passed between from when the lisp-geo spec was published I believe most implementations have done lisp-geo encoding vs RFC 8060. My lispers.net implementation does the lisp-geo encoding with the type defined in the draft which is the same as RFC 8060. >> >>> How many implementation of this draft are you aware of? >> I think cisco and lispers.net. But cisco has to confirm. >> >> I think we should do Option C which is do nothing to RFC 8060 and put text in the lisp-geo spec which indicates its encoding takes precedent over RFC 8060 using the same code point and document all implementations have evolved to the lisp-geo spec. >> >> Dino >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list >> lisp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp
- [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Padma Pillay-Esnault
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Joel Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Padma Pillay-Esnault
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Joel Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Joel Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Joel Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Joel Halpern
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Dino Farinacci
- Re: [lisp] Draft LISP Geo-Coordinate Use-Cases Luigi Iannone