[lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Multicast draft-ietf-lisp-rfc8378bis
Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Tue, 20 January 2026 21:05 UTC
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Subject: [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Multicast draft-ietf-lisp-rfc8378bis
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Thanks Stig. Prasad, I can take care of these. Dino > On Jan 20, 2026, at 11:34 AM, Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I support publication of this document. It is in good shape, although > I couldn't help spotting a few minor editorial issues. I'm sure the > RFC Editor would fix them, but let me list what I found below. > > In abstract: > > This document describes the design for inter-domain multicast > overlays using the Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP). The > document specifies how LISP multicast overlays operate over a unicast > underlays. > > S/underlays/underlay > > In abstract: > "This document when approved obosletes RFC8378." > Typo, and should have space after RFC. > > In 5.2: > "In the ASM case, for (*, G)". Should not have space after comma. > > In 8: > > When a Map_server uses "filtered-format', the Map-Reply it originates > Note that the start and end quotes are different. > > Thanks, > Stig > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 6:17 AM Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote: >> >> Dear WG >> >> As requested by the authors, this message starts a two-week WG Last Call for ending on January 26th 2026. >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-rfc8378bis/ >> >> Title: Signal-Free Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP) Multicast >> >> Abstract: >> This document describes the design for inter-domain multicast >> overlays using the Locator/ID Separation Protocol (LISP). The >> document specifies how LISP multicast overlays operate over a unicast >> underlays. >> When multicast sources and receivers are active at Locator/ID >> Separation Protocol (LISP) sites, the core network is required to use >> native multicast so packets can be delivered from sources to group >> members. When multicast is not available to connect the multicast >> sites together, a signal-free mechanism can be used to allow traffic >> to flow between sites. The mechanism within here uses unicast >> replication and encapsulation over the core network for the data >> plane and uses the LISP mapping database system so encapsulators at >> the source LISP multicast site can find decapsulators at the receiver >> LISP multicast sites. This document when approved obosletes RFC8378. >> >> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that it is ready to be handed over to the AD. >> >> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your concerns. >> >> Note: silence IS NOT consensus. >> >> Thanks >> >> Padma and Luigi >> _______________________________________________ >> lisp mailing list -- lisp@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to lisp-leave@ietf.org > > _______________________________________________ > lisp mailing list -- lisp@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to lisp-leave@ietf.org
- [lisp] WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/ID Se… Luigi Iannone
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Dino Farinacci
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Dino Farinacci
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Sharon
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Marc Portoles Comeras (mportole)
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Stig Venaas
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Victor Moreno
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Alberto Rodriguez-Natal (natal)
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [lisp] Re: WG Last Call for Signal-Free Locator/I… Luigi Iannone