Re: [lisp] AD Review of draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub-09

"Alberto Rodriguez-Natal (natal)" <natal@cisco.com> Mon, 07 November 2022 10:39 UTC

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From: "Alberto Rodriguez-Natal (natal)" <natal@cisco.com>
To: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
CC: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, "lisp@ietf.org" <lisp@ietf.org>, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net>, "lisp-chairs@ietf.org" <lisp-chairs@ietf.org>, Vina Ermagan <ermagan@gmail.com>, Stefano Secci <stefano.secci@cnam.fr>, "Fabio Maino (fmaino)" <fmaino@cisco.com>, Sharon Barkai <sharon.barkai@getnexar.com>, Albert Cabellos <acabello@ac.upc.edu>, Johnson Leong <johnsonleong@gmail.com>, JACQUENET Christian INNOV/NET <christian.jacquenet@orange.com>, "mohamed.boucadair@orange.com" <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
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Agreed, that something we should cover on the NAT traversal spec.

Alberto

From: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, November7 2022 at 2:52 AM
To: Alberto Rodriguez-Natal (natal) <natal@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: AD Review of draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub-09



On Nov 6, 2022, at 8:49 PM, Alberto Rodriguez-Natal (natal) <natal@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Dino,

I’m referring to this exchange [1] between Alvaro and you, regarding the use of ITR-RLOCs from the Map-Request as the addresses to use to send the Map-Notifies to.

The summary is that since Map-Requests include the “ITR-RLOC” fields, we are using those, instead of the source address of the Map-Request, to send the Map-Notifies. This is for both Map-Notifies used to ack subscription as well as for Map-Notifies sent as publication (the Map-Server keeps track of the last ITR-RLOCs received for a subscriber).

Hope it makes sense :)

It makes sense now but we have to be careful those ITR-RLOC addresses are translated public addresses so the Map-Notify can get back to ITRs through NATs.

Dino



Alberto

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/hN4tpuZl2nm86UVTqqmH24q0Tx8/


From: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, November6 2022 at 2:39 PM
To: Alberto Rodriguez-Natal (natal) <natal@cisco.com>
Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, lisp@ietf.org <lisp@ietf.org>, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net>, lisp-chairs@ietf.org <lisp-chairs@ietf.org>, Vina Ermagan <ermagan@gmail.com>, Stefano Secci <stefano.secci@cnam.fr>, Fabio Maino (fmaino) <fmaino@cisco.com>, Sharon Barkai <sharon.barkai@getnexar.com>, Albert Cabellos <acabello@ac.upc.edu>, Johnson Leong <johnsonleong@gmail.com>, JACQUENET Christian INNOV/NET <christian.jacquenet@orange.com>, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Subject: Re: AD Review of draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub-09
> [AR] As mentioned in the Alvaro/Dino discussion, regular Map-Notifies as per 9301 are sent to the source IP address of the Map-Register that triggered them. Since PubSub extends LISP to specify that Map-Notifies can also be triggered by Map-Requests, we need to specify where these Map-Request-triggered Map-Notifies are sent to.

This isn't making sense to me. Are you talking about a Map-Notify as an ack to the Map-Register or an unsolicited Map-Notify and if the latter, the notification is going to the source address of the LAST subscription request. And if another Map-Request came later with the N-bit set again, with a new/different source IP address, the map-server must cache the last address (and later send Map-Notify to this new address).

Agree?

Dino