Re: [lisp] Last Call SECDIR Review of draft-ietf-lisp-6834bis-11

Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> Wed, 01 June 2022 13:47 UTC

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From: Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net>
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Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:46:56 +0200
Cc: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>, secdir <secdir@ietf.org>, Last Call <last-call@ietf.org>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-lisp-6834bis.all@ietf.org, "lisp@ietf.org list" <lisp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [lisp] Last Call SECDIR Review of draft-ietf-lisp-6834bis-11
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Hi Alvaro,

> On 1 Jun 2022, at 15:29, Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nice sentence, but what does it mean?  What action should the
> implementation take to satisfy "MUST be managed"?  From Luigi's
> initial response (above), it sounds like the time between changes (TTL
> ?) has to be long enough...  Please spell some of this out.
> 

What if we change to:

Mapping updates, and their corresponding Map Version Number MUST be managed so
that  a very old version number will not be confused as a new version number (because of the circular numbering space).

Or you consider it too vague?

Ciao

L.

> Thanks!
> 
> Alvaro.