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Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> Tue, 03 July 2018 05:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt
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what we need is compact onion routing - maybe we could call it garlic routing.

in all seriousness, if people are worried about privacy with regards
network operators, or state actors co-ercing network operators, at
this level, that is what you want. otherwise forget about efficient
mobile routing - the fact is that the signature of the set of
locations you visit is enough to re-identify a node pretty quickly -
its been done (see wetherall's work on this a few years back on simply
looking at sequences of wifi AP associations, without bothing with end
system mac addr, to uniquely matc individual (indeed, find their home)
- you have to get the threat model appropriately...and proportioately

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:42 PM, Erik Nordmark <nordmark@acm.org> wrote:
>
> This is a rough draft, but hopefully it can stimulate more discussion around
> privacy considerations.
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt
> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:34:11 -0700
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: Erik Nordmark <nordmark@sonic.net>
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>
> A new version of I-D, draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Erik Nordmark and posted to the
> IETF repository.
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> Name:           draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Privacy issues in ID/locator separation systems
> Document date:  2018-07-02
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          6
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00.txt
> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy-00
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nordmark-id-loc-privacy
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> Abstract:
>    There exists several protocols and proposals for identifier/locator
>    split which have some form of control plane by which participating
>    nodes can use to share their current id to locator information with
>    their peers.  This document explores some of the privacy
>    considerations for such a system.
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