[lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lisp-name-encoding-08
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Hello Rich, others, On 2024-07-10 02:07, Salz, Rich wrote: > UTF8 is upward compatible with ASCII. That is, all seven-bit ASCII characters are valid UTF8 characters. And while we are at pedanticism, it's UTF-8, not UTF8. Regards, Martin. [with my charset reviewer hat on] > On 7/9/24, 12:59 PM, "Dino Farinacci" <farinacci@gmail.com <mailto:farinacci@gmail.com>> wrote: > > >> Reviewer: Rich Salz >> Review result: Serious Issues > > > Thanks for your comments Rich. > > >> This is a very short draft that adds "names" to LISP identifiers. >> >> Major nit: Why is ASCII used for names rather than UTF-8? Related, no mention >> of punycode as a UTF8 alternative. If UTF8 was considered and then rejected as >> not needed, there should probably be a justfication for that decision in the >> document. > > > This came up in the working group and we just decided ASCII was sufficient. And since implementations lead the draft we didn't want to obsolete them or create a compatibility issue. > > >> A document which is part of a system "which are intended to replace most use of >> IP addresses" that limits names to the ASCII character set should not be >> approved. >> >> Minor nit: "Distinguished Name" has a long history with X.509 certificates and >> I could not get past my confusion. Is another name possible? Okay if the >> answer is no. > > > We had to inherit that name since we decided to use AFI=17. > > > Dino
- [lisp] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lisp… Rich Salz via Datatracker
- [lisp] Re: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-… Dino Farinacci
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Secdir last call revie… Tim Bray
- [lisp] Re: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-… Salz, Rich
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Secdir last call revie… Tim Bray
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Secdir last call revie… Salz, Rich
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of… Dino Farinacci
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Secdir last call revie… Martin J. Dürst
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of… Salz, Rich
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of… Dino Farinacci
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of… Salz, Rich
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of… Salz, Rich
- [lisp] Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of… Tim Bray