Re: [lisp] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Sat, 22 September 2018 04:52 UTC

Return-Path: <farinacci@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4F0130EB4; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sC5UqrbprEgh; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pl1-x634.google.com (mail-pl1-x634.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::634]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A69EC130DDD; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pl1-x634.google.com with SMTP id s17-v6so6797739plp.7; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=q8yKkvJF1HEos2ZpyM4jKyf/i1baugG/MjvHLxxAlRg=; b=aiKsoZON1ER9sI0EE/jtQaXZHUBZZbRQgI40CpT5SeQ1n7joO+dUvWqKiJU+1hG7VM 0odzHjdidf+ZoYhzldkrei2J9cPcNKChVJ47+fSm2ZrhcJrYVCB3BF3XRKBuN684kNw5 1HrfZC8LsNdFXmqXoAEhVMAgV7fp5UoP+baytFASg21yQGJMz1wL/jt9Ox93ZuT2N2SH BXu+8K67ZTyn4mq3s8sHvjwePmd/voA6IYFbrWOF8zfm8lpCr4IciXcSlUkp8cz7JjuY HK9uZVIwzq710F+jPjbeaVEQZH2YHHrAzuV0VtHlFmt9NaFTUDaoPHjUfZAECj1V0uvC iKmw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=q8yKkvJF1HEos2ZpyM4jKyf/i1baugG/MjvHLxxAlRg=; b=fi02JU4Ca7ddn5DHU1/Ti/jCRfDf+IT5xiWbTkymHDx5ExY9QZr7js7OhR1AwgTRNP eAOTCaGVbrhf8Z0q7P0SIa8JxPFQhw9l/e/ASICfHuaknsNeKdLoQg20bLttpbTkJcVf PzoQ5wwFZBs72QR+hVxWWRiw/4L8EVybkRWL6suuw/YXHD8EU1SXKPFxq6MihsnmhVYb a6LTi5hZALNjBq6Hz95qFh0bkvov4chxVQVc2G8IQH1jt/XwMeZg0+TwCuFNhBZFSgKu JWGBRBBem7YYuVf/8/hwECgRvDve6EcPI+cjO9cDkCxVf9fXC8HOAaddIMz6MSvt1krc dttw==
X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoigddgJwn7SFIrrURLjHeZyO6LsQYo7A5SJGJHLM0m9Cta1OoME A/mUQ5BZ1zitf0/EBAJkr65aW+HW
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61HF0MfTIvchCwm8eijr+0jp0QcFBECVt3HFg5DaN8NF3F3WN7Q/XEktG71P5P0htFG72N+Jg==
X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b947:: with SMTP id h7-v6mr836665pls.157.1537591955229; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [10.10.37.31] ([65.154.156.50]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z19-v6sm37510410pgi.33.2018.09.21.21.52.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:34 -0700 (PDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\))
From: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <2DC6D38E-C46B-4D38-B093-B88720BCD550@kuehlewind.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 21:52:33 -0700
Cc: Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net>, lisp-chairs@ietf.org, "lisp@ietf.org list" <lisp@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis@ietf.org, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <0BE5C929-D2FA-4786-9F5E-0A93E7700880@gmail.com>
References: <153667905625.16761.12157659372502604927.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7DEBCA24-9D55-4325-85AA-48AB3FAAB91D@gmail.com> <0201F06C-DA9E-445A-A995-54BA805B595C@kuehlewind.net> <DDA9C261-44DD-4389-9463-3A84E4C176BB@gmail.com> <5EC21C57-D217-48A9-AFD0-24710299CF7F@kuehlewind.net> <5A3C4B1F-EA31-4698-96F4-915A77400A56@gmail.com> <2CAF25CC-01EE-49D4-B970-F8EFB24940A8@kuehlewind.net> <5F9D8F39-871D-4A96-9C0A-7BACD2ABB1F7@gmail.com> <AC0C4ACA-0E15-441E-B05A-64F034CBF2F1@kuehlewind.net> <CDF10486-2CD1-43C2-BF1B-BA8CA8C29444@gmail.com> <2DC6D38E-C46B-4D38-B093-B88720BCD550@kuehlewind.net>
To: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/sUyKkNevUohbjhwLRyQj8Ul1AU0>
Subject: Re: [lisp] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol <lisp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/lisp>, <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/lisp/>
List-Post: <mailto:lisp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp>, <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 04:52:37 -0000

> However, I totally disagree with your comment on providing details that are not implemented. If they are not implemented correctly, it might even be more important to spell them out in this document, so implementors have chance to update their (future) implementation to do the correct thing. Having deployed implementations that are non standard-conform always happens and in this case it is probably not specifically problematic as it doesn’t impact interoperability. However, it is important though that the spec is correct.

And why do you think they are implemented incorrectly? 

Dino