Re: [lmap] LMAP: time to declare success ... ?

Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com> Wed, 14 February 2018 13:05 UTC

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From: Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 15:05:26 +0200
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Subject: Re: [lmap] LMAP: time to declare success ... ?
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Hi Benoit,

Actually the WG made a choice also related to the protocol to associate
with YANG for LMAP - RESTCONF. The role of draft-ietf-lmap-restconf was to
document this choice and detail the specifics.

Just to be clear, I am personally fine with closing the WG. I believe that
in order to really complete the charter we need to approve and publish
draft-ietf-lmap-restconf to RFC. If the WG closes this can be done better
IMO in opsawg. It would be good to mention this in the WG closing message.

Regards,

Dan


On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>; wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> "declaring success?" was an image to mean "shall we close the WG?"
>
> If my memory serves me well... At charter time (in 2013!), there were
> discussions regarding the data models and specific protocols. YANG was not
> necessary a given or even a goal. When specifying a YANG data model, that
> simplified the choice of associated protocols.
>
> Regards, Benoit
>
> Hi,
>
> I do not believe that we can really declare success without having
> completed one of the key goals of our charter. My opinion is that
> draft-ietf-lmap-restconf-04.txt needs to be done. We may be able to do it
> without keeping the WG active. If the WG closes, my preference would be
> OPSAWG rather than Independent Stream.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
> j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>; wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 03:21:12PM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote:
>> >
>> > The charter speaks about the control and report protocols.
>> > draft-ietf-lmap-restconf-04.txt, now expired, describes in 7 pages how
>> > RESTCONF can be used with a YANG data model for LMAP.
>> >
>> > Is it time to declare success and move on?
>> > Unless there are spectacular activities in the next 2 or 3 weeks, I'll
>> take
>> > action before stepping down as AD.
>> >
>> > Note that publishing draft-ietf-lmap-restconf could still proceed in the
>> > Independent Submission Stream, if there is some future energy to do so.
>>
>> draft-ietf-lmap-restconf-04.txt depends on the NETCONF/RESTCONF
>> configuration drafts done in the NETCONF WG; these NETCONF I-Ds have
>> not been moving because people put priority on getting NMDA out of the
>> door.
>>
>> Since nobody seems to be pushing for getting
>> draft-ietf-lmap-restconf-04.txt done, it might be OK to just let it
>> go.
>>
>> /js
>>
>> --
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