Re: [lp-wan] [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-19.txt> NOW AVAILABLE
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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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Thread-Topic: [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-19.txt> NOW AVAILABLE
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Subject: Re: [lp-wan] [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-19.txt> NOW AVAILABLE
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Eric, Ana: Would you wish to discuss this tomorrow at the interim? Keep safe; Pascal > -----Original Message----- > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> > Sent: mercredi 26 mai 2021 23:54 > To: ana@ackl.io; laurent.toutain@imt-atlantique.fr; randreasen@fi.uba.ar > Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; lpwan-ads@ietf.org; lpwan-chairs@ietf.org; > Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> > Subject: [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static- > context-hc-19.txt> NOW AVAILABLE > > Authors, Éric (as AD), > > *Éric, please reply to questions #7 and #14 below. > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as > necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > 1) <!-- [rfced] Full and abbreviated (running) document title: > We expanded the abbreviations in the full title, as they are not > considered well known. > > Also, we had trouble following the running title as compared to the full > title. May we update as suggested? > > Original: > LPWAN Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) for CoAP ... > LPWAN CoAP compression > > Current full title: > Low-Power Wide-Area Network (LPWAN) Static Context Header Compression > (SCHC) for the Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP) > > Suggested abbreviated title: > LPWAN SCHC for CoAP --> > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in > the > title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search --> > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Abstract and subsequent: "SCHC compression", where used > generally as a noun, looks odd. We suggest rephrasing where appropriate. > > We see that RFC 8724 defines "SCHC" as "Static Context Header Compression > and fragmentation". Because this document defines "SCHC" > as "Static Context Header Compression", "SCHC compression" would then > read as "Static Context Header Compression compression". > > Should we expand "SCHC" as "Static Context Header Compression and > fragmentation" per RFC 8724, instead of using the current "Static Context > Header Compression"? That would solve the "Static Context Header > Compression compression" situation. --> > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: We are revisiting this question as asked > previously. Please clarify the meaning of "make the difference". > > We had trouble following the meaning of > "make the difference" in this sentence. Does it mean "determine the > difference between header types" or something else? > > Original: > The field > description MAY define both request/response headers and target values > in the same Rule, using the DI (direction indicator) to make the > difference. > > Perhaps: > The field > description MAY define both request/response headers and target values > in the same Rule, using the DI (direction indicator) to indicate the > header type. > > Author reply: > => Make the difference means that we can identify the description of the > request and the response using the DI. We use DI as the decision maker. - > -> > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.1: We are revisiting this question as asked > previously. Please let us know how this sentence should be updated - our > "Possibly" text, or the author's reply text (i.e., removing mention of > the same behavior)? > > This sentence is difficult to follow. > Are three things listed here, or does "same behavior" refer to the two > code format (values)? Also, does "field Code" mean "Code field," > "field's code", or something else? > > Original: > The field Code has the same behavior, the 0.0X code format value in the > request, and the Y.ZZ code format in the response. > > Possibly: > The field Code has the same behavior: the 0.0X code format value in the > request and the Y.ZZ code format in the response. > > Author reply: > => Agree with your possibility of using : > The field Code in the CoAP header has the format 0.0X in the request and > Y.ZZ in the response, and can be compessed as the field Type. --> > > > 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.3: "The Code field is an IANA registry" reads > oddly. If the suggested text is not correct, please clarify. > > Original: > The Code field is an IANA registry [RFC7252], and it indicates the > Request Method used in CoAP. > > Suggested: > The Code field, defined in an IANA registry [RFC7252], indicates the > Request Method used in CoAP. --> > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] *[AD]: Original Figure 5 (now Table 2): Please review > the following updates to this table and the subsequent text, as > specified by the author in reply to our preliminary question 15), and > let us know if you approve. Per the author, we changed "k=\"" to > "k=" and MSB(24) to MSB(16) in the table, and we changed "0x2 X 6" > and '0x05 eth0"' to '0x2 "X6"' and '0x4 "eth0"' in the subsequent > text. > > (We have removed the dashed lines here, so that xml2rfc will not try > to interpret them as comments. It will be best to look at the diff > file and the text output in order to see these updates.) > > Original question and author reply: > > 15) Section 5.3: The "i.e.," item is missing a quotation > mark. Should it be "0x05 eth0" or 0x05 "eth0"? > > Original: > SCHC will send the second element of the URI-Path with the length > (i.e., 0x2 X 6) followed by the query option (i.e., 0x05 eth0"). > => OLD > > For instance, for a CORECONF path /c/X6?k="eth0" the Rule description > can be: > > | Field |FL |FP|DI| Target | Match | CDA | > | | | | | Value | Opera. | | > > |Uri-Path | | 1|up|"c" |equal |not-sent | > |Uri-Path |var| 2|up| |ignore |value-sent | > |Uri-Query |var| 1|up|"k=\"" |MSB(24) |LSB | > > Figure 5: CORECONF URI compression > > Figure 5 shows the Rule description for a URI-Path and a URI-Query. > SCHC compresses the first part of the URI-Path with a "not-sent" CDA. > SCHC will send the second element of the URI-Path with the length > (i.e., 0x2 X 6) followed by the query option (i.e., 0x05 eth0"). > > NEW > > For instance, for a CORECONF path /c/X6?k=eth0 the Rule description > can be: > > | Field |FL |FP|DI| Target | Match | CDA | > | | | | | Value | Opera. | | > > |Uri-Path | | 1|up|"c" |equal |not-sent | > |Uri-Path |var| 2|up| |ignore |value-sent | > |Uri-Query |var| 1|up|"k=" |MSB(16) |LSB | > > > Figure 5: CORECONF URI compression > > Figure 5 shows the Rule description for a URI-Path and a URI-Query. > SCHC compresses the first part of the URI-Path with a "not-sent" CDA. > SCHC will send the second element of the URI-Path with the length > (i.e., 0x2 "X6") followed by the query option (i.e., 0x4 "eth0"). --> > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] Figures 5 and 7 (now Tables 2 and 3): As it appears > that "Match Opera." means "MO", we updated accordingly, per the > original Figure 18 (now Table 5). Please let us know if this is > incorrect. > > Original: > | Match | > | Opera. | > > Currently: > | MO | --> > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] Sections 5.4 and subsequent: Per guidance in > Section 3.2 of RFC 7322 (https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7322.txt), > we moved punctuation outside quotation marks where literal text > (e.g., "value-sent") is used. Please let us know any concerns. --> > > > 10) <!-- [rfced] FYI, We have converted Figures 7, 13, 18, and 21 into > tables (Tables 3, 4, 5, and 6). Please let us know if any formatting > changes are necessary. --> > > > 11) <!-- [rfced] Tables 3, 5, and 6 (originally Figures 7, 18, and 21): > Please clarify the following: > > * Should "MSB(7 )" be "MSB(7)"? > > * Is it necessary to center "CC CCC" and right-justify "M-ID" when > all other cells in "Sent [bits]" columns are left-justified? > Because most entries are left-justified, we used left justification > here as well. Please let us know if special alignment is needed in > these cases. > > * Should "M-ID" be "MID" as used elsewhere in this document? > > * It appears that the instances of "var 1" in the original > Figures 7 and 18 (now Tables 3 and 5) should be "var|1" per the > formatting of "var" items in the original Figures 4 and 5 > (now Tables 1 and 2). We formatted accordingly. Please note that > this item also applies to the original "tkl 1"s in the original > Figures 18 and 21 (now Tables 5 and 6); these are now "tkl|1". > Please let us know any concerns. --> > > > 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.2: For ease of the reader, we expanded "AAD" > as "Additional Authenticated Data", per RFC 8613. Please let us know > if this is incorrect. > > Original: > o Class I: Integrity-protected options included in the AAD for the > encryption of the Plaintext but otherwise left untouched in the > Outer Message, > > Currently: > Class I: Integrity-protected options included in the Additional > Authenticated Data (AAD) for the encryption of the Plaintext but > otherwise left untouched in the Outer Message. --> > > > 13) <!-- [rfced] Original Figures 8 and 10 (now Figures 5 and 7): > We changed the two instances of "OxFF" to "0xFF". Please let us > know if this is incorrect. > > Original: > | Options (IU) | | OxFF | > ... > | Options (IU) | | OxFF | > > Currently: > | Options (IU) | | 0xFF | > ... > | Options (IU) | | 0xFF | --> > > > 14) <!-- [rfced] *[AD]: We removed the original "Thus only the first > ..." > sentence per the author's reply to our preliminary question 23). > Please review, and let us know if you approve. > > Original question: > > Section 7.2: It appears that one or more words are > missing in this sentence. Please clarify "the first variable-length > of the Ciphertext". > > Original (the entire paragraph is included for context): > As defined in [RFC5116], this Ciphertext is the encrypted Plaintext's > concatenation of the authentication tag. Note that Inner Compression > only affects the Plaintext before encryption. Thus only the first > variable-length of the Ciphertext can be reduced. The authentication > tag is fixed in length and is considered part of the cost of > protection. > > Author reply: > => NEW > As defined in [RFC5116], this Ciphertext is the encrypted Plaintext's > concatenation of the authentication tag. Note that Inner Compression > only affects the Plaintext before encryption. The authentication > tag, fixed in length and not be compressed, is considered as part of the > cost of protection. --> > > > 15) <!-- [rfced] Original Figures 12, 22, and 23 (now Figures 9, 16, > and 17): Should the following lengths be expressed in bytes, bits, > or something else? > > Original: > Original msg length: 10 > ... > Compressed msg length: 2 > ... > Compressed msg length: 6 > > Possibly: > Original message length: 10 bytes > ... > Compressed message length: 2 bytes > ... > Compressed message length: 6 bytes --> > > > 16) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.3: We see what appears to be conflicting > information in the different descriptions of the original Figure 18, > which is now Table 5. We have moved Table 5 so that it appears closer > to its first citation, but this makes the conflicting information > more noticeable. > > Please let us know how the following should be clarified (e.g., > "Outer SCHC Rules" vs. "possible set of Outer Rules" vs. "Outer Rule > of Figure 18 is"). We ask because, for example, the title of > Figure 18 (now Table 5) is the plural "Outer SCHC Rules", but the > original "The Outer Rule of Figure 18 is" does not make it clear > which of the rules shown in Table 5 is being discussed. > > Original: > The Outer SCHC Rules (Figure 18) must process the OSCORE Options > fields. > ... > Figure 18 shows a possible set of Outer Rules to compress the Outer > Header. > ... > The Outer Rule of Figure 18 is applied to the example GET Request and > CONTENT Response. --> > > > 17) <!-- [rfced] Original Figures 19 and 20 (now Figures 14 and 15): > Please confirm that "tkn" (and not "tkl") is correct in these > figures. > > Original: > Compression Residue: > 0b 0001 010 0100 0100 (15 bits -> 2 bytes with padding) > mid tkn piv kid > ... > Compression Residue: > 0b0001 010 (7 bits -> 1 byte with padding) > mid tkn --> > > > 18) <!-- [rfced] Section 7.3: We had trouble following this sentence. > For example, the title of Figure 21 (now Table 6) is the plural > "SCHC-CoAP Rules (No OSCORE)"; if the text should not be "Rules yield", > should a particular Rule be specified here? If the suggested text is > not correct, please clarify. > > Original: > Figure 21 Rule yields the SCHC compression results in Figure 22 for > request, and Figure 23 for the response. > > Suggested (assuming that "Rule" should be plural, and noting that > figures and tables have been renumbered): > The Rules in Table 6 yield the SCHC compression results as shown in > Figure 16 for the request and Figure 17 for the response. --> > > > Thank you. > > RFC Editor/lb/jm > > > On 5/26/21 4:40 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > *****IMPORTANT***** > > Updated 2021/05/26 > > RFC Author(s): > -------------- > > Instructions for Completing AUTH48 > > Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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- Re: [lp-wan] [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draf… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [lp-wan] [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draf… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [lp-wan] [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draf… dominique.barthel
- Re: [lp-wan] [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draf… Carles Gomez Montenegro
- Re: [lp-wan] [AD] Re: AUTH48 [LB]: RFC 8824 <draf… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)