Re: [lp-wan] Fwd: WG Rechartering - new charter approval vote (vote ends Dec 3rd)

Ivaylo Petrov <ivaylo@ackl.io> Wed, 20 November 2019 09:36 UTC

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From: Ivaylo Petrov <ivaylo@ackl.io>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:35:43 +0800
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To: Laurent Toutain <laurent.toutain@imt-atlantique.fr>
Cc: "Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl>, lp-wan <lp-wan@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [lp-wan] Fwd: WG Rechartering - new charter approval vote (vote ends Dec 3rd)
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I agree with the proposed charter.

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Ivaylo


On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:53 AM Laurent Toutain <
laurent.toutain@imt-atlantique.fr> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:50 AM Prof. Diego Dujovne <
> diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl> wrote:
>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> De: Prof. Diego Dujovne <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl>
>> Date: mar., 19 de noviembre de 2019 08:50
>> Subject: Re: [lp-wan] WG Rechartering - new charter approval vote (vote
>> ends Dec 3rd)
>> To: Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io>
>>
>>
>> Alex,
>>         I agree on the new charter.
>> Thanks.
>> Regards,
>>
>>                    Diego Dujovne
>>
>> Le mar.. 19 nov. 2019 à 07:05, Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io> a écrit :
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> As we have achieved all our milestones the LPWAN WG is now
>>> rechartering.. We have been discussing the recharter for several IETFs now,
>>> so most of the new charter should be familiar..
>>>
>>> The new charter is as follows:
>>> - The introduction and the context remain unchanged.
>>> - Charter item 1 is a generalization of the Charter item 1 we discussed
>>> in past IETFs.
>>> - Charter items 2 and 4 come directly from our previous charter.
>>> - Charter item 3 was proposed, discussed and voted during the session.
>>> - Charter item 5 has been discussed during the past several IETFs.
>>>
>>> We would like to confirm the agreement in the room on the mailing list.
>>> Please vote by December 3rd, 23h55 CET.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pascal and Alexander
>>>
>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>
>>> *Charter Proposal for LPWAN Working Group*
>>> *(Changes are given below in bold)*
>>> A new generation of wireless technologies has emerged under the generic
>>> name of Low-Power Wide-Area (LPWA), with a number of common
>>> characteristics, which make these technologies unique and disruptive for
>>> Internet of Things applications.
>>> Those common traits include an optimized radio modulation, a star
>>> topology, frame sizes in the order of tens of bytes transmitted a few times
>>> per day at ultra-low speeds and sometimes variable MTUs, and, though
>>> downstream may be supported, a mostly upstream transmission pattern that
>>> allows the devices to spend most of their time in low- energy deep-sleep
>>> mode.
>>> This enables a range of several kilometers and a long battery lifetime,
>>> possibly ten years operating on a single coin-cell. This also enables
>>> simple and scalable deployments with low-cost devices and thin
>>> infrastructures.
>>> Those benefits come at a price: the layer 2 frame formats are optimized
>>> and specific to each individual technology. There is no network layer and
>>> the application is often hard wired to the layer 2 frame format, leading to
>>> siloed deployments that must be managed, secured and operated individually.
>>> Migrating from one LPWA technology to another implies rebuilding the whole
>>> chain.
>>> To unleash the full power of LPWA technologies and their ecosystems,
>>> there is a need to couple them with other ecosystems that will guarantee
>>> the inter-working by introducing a network layer, and enable common
>>> components for management and security, as well as shared application
>>> profiles. The IETF can contribute by providing IPv6 connectivity, and
>>> propose technologies to secure the operations and manage the devices and
>>> their gateways.
>>> The Working Group will focus on enabling IPv6 connectivity over the
>>> following selection of Low-Power Wide-Area technologies: SIGFOX, LoRa,
>>> WI-SUN and NB-IOT.
>>> These technologies present similar characteristics of rare and widely
>>> unbalanced over-the-air transmissions, with little capability to alter the
>>> frame formats to accommodate this work, which makes it so that existing
>>> IETF work (6lo) cannot be trivially applied.
>>> The Working Group will leverage cross-participation with the associated
>>> set of stakeholders to ensure that the work taking place corresponds to
>>> real demands and that the proposed solutions are indeed applicable.
>>> The group will produce informational work describing LPWA technologies
>>> and their needs as well as new standard work to optimize IPv6-based
>>> communications to the end device
>>>
>>> The group will:
>>> *1. Perform SCHC Maintenance, including enabling SCHC mechanisms for
>>> Upper layer Protocols. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *2.. Produce Standard Track documents to apply SCHC IPv6/UDP over the
>>> baseline technologies.3. Produce a Standards Track document to provide a
>>> mechanism to improve the reliability of delivering fragmented multicast
>>> packets.4. Produce a Standards Track document to define the generic data
>>> models to  formalize the compression and fragmentation contexts. 5. Produce
>>> a Standards Track document to enable  operations, administration and
>>> maintenance (OAM) to the LPWAN device, including support for delayed or
>>> proxyed liveness verification (Ping).*
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lp-wan
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> DIEGO DUJOVNE
>> Profesor Asociado
>> Escuela de Informática y Telecomunicaciones
>> Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile
>> www.ingenieria.udp.cl
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