Re: [lp-wan] New Version Notification for draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture-00.txt
Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io> Mon, 15 February 2021 08:53 UTC
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From: Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 09:52:52 +0100
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Subject: Re: [lp-wan] New Version Notification for draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture-00.txt
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Dear Olivier, Thanks for the feedback ! I'll try to push the changes for tomorrow. Cheers, Alex On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Olivier Gimenez <ogimenez@semtech.com> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > > > Thank you for the document. Here are my comments: > > > > *1. Introduction* > > For instance, as represented figure Figure 1 > > The first word “figure” should be removed > > > > For instance, as represented figure Figure 1, IP compression and > > fragmentation may be managed by the network SCHC instance and end-to- > > end compression between the device and the application. The former > > can itself be split in two instances since encryption hides the field > > structure. > > > > I think that “can itself be split in two instances “ applies to the SCHC > instance in the App, not in network layer so “former” should be “latter”. > > Nevertheless it might be better to be explicit there: > > * ***The SCHC instance at application layer is can**** be split in two > instances **as**** encryption hides the field > > structure. > > > > Figure1: There is a type in “Network SCHC”, it is written “CSHC” > > > > the LPWAN woeking group > > Typo: in “working” > > > > > > *2. Definitions* > > If the chapter is empty, should we remove it? > > Otherwise I think that we should reference the RFC8376 > > > > *3. Global architecture* > > If SCHC compressed packet is too large to be send in a single L2 > > frame, fragmentation will apply > > > > Compression might not always apply, it has to be defined in the > LPWAN-over-foo profile. So I would change the “will apply” in “can apply”. > > > > On the other direction, when a packet SCHC arrives, the ruleID is > > used to find the rule. > > “packet SCHC” => “SCHC packet” > > > > Its nature allows to select if it is a > > compression or fragmentation rule. > > I am not sure that it works as described, but rather: > > *The SCHC Reassembly checks if the SCHC packet rule match its own table:* > > *- If it does: it reassembles the fragments before providing the > reassemble SCHC message to the SCHC Decompressor* > > *- Otherwise: the SCHC packet is directly provided to the SCHC > Decompressor* > > Cf RFC8724 figure 3. It might worth to copy all figure 3 and its > associated comment. > > > > Figure 2: > > I think that F/R and C/D should be split and not at the same level > > Please use “rules” instead of “r”, easier to understand > > > > To enable rule synchronization between both ends, a common rule > > representation must be defined. > > Should we explicitly mention that this synchronisation is not (yet) > defined ? I had this question several times while writing SCHC-over-LoRaWAN > > > > > > Figure 3: The figure is not clear to me: again the C/D and F/R are mixed, > and we should draw the Device and the App > > > > The RM is a application using the Internet to exchange information, > > therefore: > > The rule manager *can* use Internet, it is not mandatory > > > > The RM traffic may be itself compressed by SCHC, especially if > > CORECONF is used, [I-D.ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc] can be > > used. > > If feel it confusing, maybe: > > The RM traffic may be compressed by SCHC, especially if > > CORECONF is used *as* [I-D.ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc] can be * > *employed**. > > > > Olivier > > > > *From:* lp-wan <lp-wan-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Alexander Pelov > *Sent:* 19 January 2021 12:36 > *To:* lp-wan <lp-wan@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [lp-wan] New Version Notification for > draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture-00.txt > > > > Dear all, > > > > For a full disclosure, Acklio might potentially have an IPR related to > section 4 of the SCHC Architecture draft. Please keep in mind that I am not > a lawyer. > > We'll be following standard IETF practices for the licensing terms. > > > > Best regards, > > Alexander > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:22 PM Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > With our second meeting in this new year, we wanted to start the > discussion on one of the topics we've been having for some time now - the > SCHC Architecture. > > > > An initial draft was submitted and we can discuss it and the evolution > during the interim today. > > > > Cheers, > > Pascal, Ana and Alex > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 12:17 PM > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture-00.txt > To: Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io>, Ana Minaburo <ana@ackl.io>, Pascal > Thubert <pthubert@cisco.com> > > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Alexander Pelov and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture > Revision: 00 > Title: Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) Architecture > Document date: 2021-01-19 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 6 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture-00.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture/ > Htmlized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture > Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pelov-lpwan-architecture-00 > > > Abstract: > This document defines the SCHC architecture. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > To view our privacy policy, including the types of personal information we > collect, process and share, and the rights and options you have in this > respect, see www.semtech.com/legal. >
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