Re: [Lsr] AD Review of draft-ietf-isis-mpls-elc-10

Peter Psenak <ppsenak@cisco.com> Tue, 24 March 2020 10:44 UTC

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Hi Alvaro,

I posted a new version - draft-ietf-isis-mpls-elc-11. It should have all 
your inputs incorporated.

Please let me know if you are ok with it. Once it's approved from your 
side, I will update the OSPF draft.

thanks,
Peter


  On 23/03/2020 19:23, Alvaro Retana wrote:
> Ok…let’s move forward.  No need to add more text.
> 
> Alvaro.
> 
> On March 23, 2020 at 10:36:42 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) (acee@cisco.com 
> <mailto:acee@cisco.com>) wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alvaro,
>>
>> On 3/23/20, 5:17 AM, "Peter Psenak" <ppsenak@cisco.com 
>> <mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alavaro,
>>
>> On 20/03/2020 19:23, Alvaro Retana wrote:
>> > On March 20, 2020 at 10:34:59 AM, Peter Psenak wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Peter: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >>>>> I don't really see why one would affect the other. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> I agree. BMI-MSD is an egress capability and ERLD-MSD is an ingress 
>> >>>> capability. While they may be related in the internal ASIC implementation, 
>> >>>> they are independent from a capability perspective. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Please write that then. 
>> >> 
>> >> there are many MSDs defined already, are we going to write that the new 
>> >> MSD type is not interacting with any other MSD each time we define a new 
>> >> one? 
>> > 
>> > Yes, when they could be related, we are. More importantly, the reason 
>> > why the will not interact, which is what Acee’s text points to. 
>>
>> honestly I do not see a reason to say that they do not interact. Because
>> if I use your logic I would have to mention hundred other node
>> capabilities that ERLD-MSD is not interacting with. My logic is that if
>> something interacts it needs to be specified, if it does not, it does
>> not need to be.
>>
>> I agree. It seems like a slippery slope to specifically call out 
>> protocol elements which not related from a protocol standpoint.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
>>
>> > 
>> > BTW, according to the registry there are only 2 MSDs defined: 
>> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/igp-parameters/igp-parameters.xhtml#igp-msd-types 
>>
>>
>> there are more defined for SRv6 - draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-06.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Alvaro. 
>> > 
>> > 
>>
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