Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draft Redux]

Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@huawei.com> Mon, 18 February 2019 15:28 UTC

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From: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@huawei.com>
To: Peter Psenak <ppsenak@cisco.com>, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, "lsr@ietf.org" <lsr@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draft Redux]
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Hi Peter,

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 2:30 AM
>To: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@huawei.com>; Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>; Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>; lsr@ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draft Redux]
>
>Hi Huaimo,
>
>On 13/02/2019 22:50 , Huaimo Chen wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>>     My explanations/answers are in line below with prefix [HC].
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 4:58 AM
>> To: Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@huawei.com>; Acee Lindem (acee) 
>> <acee@cisco.com>; Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>; lsr@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draft Redux]
>>
>> Hi Huaimo,
>>
>> On 03/02/2019 17:58 , Huaimo Chen wrote:
>>> Hi Acee,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     I agree with you on keeping the signaling for two modes. The 
>>> other parts for the distributed solution need to be removed.
>
>optimized flooding is not only about algorithm to calculate the flooding topology and the way 
>it is distributed/computed. It is also about local rules to make sure the flooding remains consistent. 
>These are _independent_ of centralized/distributed modes. And it make no sense to specify 
>these rules in two drafts.

[HC] The rules/procedures/behaviors that are common to both the centralized and distributed 
solution/mode should be in one document. These common parts will be used by both solutions/modes. 
They are described in the two drafts and should be merged based on technical merits.  

In addition to the common parts, there are still some rules/procedures/behaviors that are 
different from one mode to another mode. For example, the rule/procedure for fault tolerance 
to failures used in the centralized solution/mode will be different from that used in the distributed 
solution/mode.  In the distributed solution/mode, there will be a set of rules/procedures/behaviors 
that are common to the algorithms for computing flooding topology and specific to the 
distributed solution/mode. For example, a specific procedure for scheduling an algorithm 
to compute a flooding topology will be used on every node for the distributed solution/mode.

>>
>> There are no "other" parts specific for the distributed solution.
>>
>> [HC] Some behaviors for the distributed solution/mode are described in draft-li-dynamic-flooding. 
>>For example, there are a few of places from page 27 to 30, which define the behaviors specific 
>>for the distributed solution/mode.
>
>I strongly disagree. The fact that we say in centralized mode area leader recomputes and in distributed 
>mode all nodes recompute make no difference in behavior.

[HC] It seems better for some of them to be more general. 

Best Regards,
Huaimo

>thanks,
>Peter