Re: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Wed, 05 June 2019 20:51 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
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Hi Les!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:22 PM
> To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc: draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions@ietf.org; Christian Hopps
> <chopps@chopps.org>; uma.chunduri@huawei.com;
> aretana.ietf@gmail.com; lsr-chairs@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-
> extensions-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> Roman -
> 
> Thanx for the review.
> 
> Responses inline.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lsr <lsr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Roman Danyliw via
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> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:18 PM
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> > Subject: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on
> > draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-
> > extensions-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> > Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
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> > DISCUSS:
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> > I need a bit of help understanding how to read the Security
> > Considerations text – threats are identified but how they are
> > mitigated seems implicit.  The text, “In general the same types of
> > attacks … However, the latter will be more difficult to detect …”,
> > alludes to a similar threat without a reference and seems to suggest
> > it will be worse in the deployed environment of this extension.
> >
> [Les:] The point being made here is that when MPLS is in use the destinations
> affected by inappropriate/malicious use of a label cannot be directly
> identified as in the case of IP/IPv6 forwarding entries  - they require further
> investigation to determine.
> But the result is the same - traffic is misrouted.
> 
> > The next paragraph, “Existing security extensions … [RFC5304] and
> > [RFC5310] apply …” states that [RFC5304] and [RFC5310] also apply.
> > What does apply mean here – should they be used?  Do they mitigate
> > what’s described in the previous paragraph?
> 
> [Les:] The two paragraphs are not directly related. RFC5304/RFC5310 define
> the use of MD5/Cryptographic authentication for IS-IS. Use of these
> extensions is prudent to protect all IS-IS advertisements. Referencing these
> RFCs is standard content for the Security section of almost any IS-IS
> extension.

I was connecting those two paragraphs.  I now understand and it is clear in re-reading.  Thanks for this explanation.  I'll clear the discuss.

>    Les
> 
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> > COMMENT:
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> > Section 2.3.  Typo.  s/advertsied/advertised/
> >
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