Re: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensions-24: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Roman -

Thanx for the review.

Responses inline.

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> I need a bit of help understanding how to read the Security Considerations
> text
> – threats are identified but how they are mitigated seems implicit.  The text,
> “In general the same types of attacks … However, the latter will be more
> difficult to detect …”, alludes to a similar threat without a reference and
> seems to suggest it will be worse in the deployed environment of this
> extension.
> 
[Les:] The point being made here is that when MPLS is in use the destinations affected by inappropriate/malicious use of a label cannot be directly identified as in the case of IP/IPv6 forwarding entries  - they require further investigation to determine.
But the result is the same - traffic is misrouted.

> The next paragraph, “Existing security extensions … [RFC5304] and [RFC5310]
> apply …” states that [RFC5304] and [RFC5310] also apply.  What does apply
> mean
> here – should they be used?  Do they mitigate what’s described in the
> previous
> paragraph?

[Les:] The two paragraphs are not directly related. RFC5304/RFC5310 define the use of MD5/Cryptographic authentication for IS-IS. Use of these extensions is prudent to protect all IS-IS advertisements. Referencing these RFCs is standard content for the Security section of almost any IS-IS extension.

   Les

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> Section 2.3.  Typo.  s/advertsied/advertised/
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