Re: [Lsr] John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-14: (with COMMENT)

Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 19 May 2021 13:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Lsr] John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-14: (with COMMENT)
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Les:

Hi!

In this case the name is being changed, a new column is added, and all
the existing code points are updated in light of the new column.

I realize this may not be enough for you.  Instead of all of us
discussing this specific case, we should focus our energy on clearly
defining what “Updates” means — there’s a proposal that could be a
starting point [1].

Thanks!

Alvaro.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-kuehlewind-update-tag



On May 19, 2021 at 12:33:27 AM, Les Ginsberg wrote:

> The only legitimate reason to update an older
> document would be if we are actually changing
> in some way one or more of the existing codepoints
> already defined in the registry. That is not
> happening here.