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Re: [Lsr] [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt

"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> Fri, 06 July 2018 13:27 UTC

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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
CC: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, "lsr@ietf.org" <lsr@ietf.org>, GMO Crops <grow@ietf.org>, Robin Li <lizhenbin@huawei.com>, "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>, Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Lsr] [OPSAWG] [GROW] FW: New Version Notification for draft-gu-network-mornitoring-protol-00.txt
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> On Jul 6, 2018, at 8:59 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> 
>> ​Why anyone would need BMP wrapper to monitor IGP ?
> 
> probably similar reasons that folk seem to need bgp-ls to get the
> is-is/ospf databases.  is-is and ospf have decades of complexity
> layered on un-simple bases.  so we seek yet another layer of gunk
> through which to see them more 'simply.'
> 
> i would say an optimistic view might be that it will take a couple
> more decades to gunk up bgp-ls and bmp so that we want yet another
> layer.  but it would appear that my optimism is not warranted.


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