Re: [Lsr] Methods to label the passive interfaces within ISIS

Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 13 January 2020 18:32 UTC

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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:32:14 -0800
From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] Methods to label the passive interfaces within ISIS
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Agree with Acee and Les

Cheers,
Jeff
On Jan 13, 2020, 9:29 AM -0800, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>, wrote:
> I agree with Acee that there is no requirement to identify an interface as passive – or (as suggested in this thread) as loopback or tunnel or stub…
>
> Before debating the best encoding for information, it would be sensible to define the use case/requirements.
> Simply having an advertisement that identifies an interface type isn’t sufficient to do anything useful IMO.
>
>    Les
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> From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 8:03 AM
> To: tony.li@tony.li; Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn>
> Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>; Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>; lsr@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] Methods to label the passive interfaces within ISIS
>
> Hi Aijun,
> I guess the external use case for this is advertisement in BGP-LS for Network Management purposes?? There really isn’t IS-IS requirement to know whether or not an interface is a passive interface.
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
> From: Lsr <lsr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2020 at 11:00 AM
> To: Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn>
> Cc: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, "lsr@ietf.org" <lsr@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] Methods to label the passive interfaces within ISIS
>
>
> Hi Anjun,
>
>
> > Is it reasonable to put the link attribute information into the “IP Reachability TLV”?
> > IMHO, such stub link is not the normal links within IGP domain.  Label the related prefix is coming from the passive/stub link seems also acceptable?
>
>
> Well, a passive interface is really configured so that you advertise the interface’s prefix.  Attaching the data that you want to the associated data seems reasonable to me.
>
> There’s no good IS Neighbor advertisement to attach the sub-TLV to because there is no neighbor.
>
> Tony
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