Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Mon, 08 March 2021 14:52 UTC

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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 09:52:08 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03
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Hi Jie

Response in-line

Thank you

Gyan

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:11 AM Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi Gyan,
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> Thanks for your comments.
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> As you mentioned, both MT and MI can provide separate topologies and the
> topology based computation, and MI can provide separate LSDBs at some
> additional cost (separate adjacencies, etc.). In this document, the
> resource of VTN mainly refers to the forwarding plane resources, thus MT is
> chosen as it can provide the required functionality with less overhead.
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> Gyan> Makes sense.  As their are many ways to provide resource isolation a
> key point that this draft solution that it provides is an optimal resource
> isolation as that relates to forwarding plane isolation of resources thus
> from a TEAS Network slice perspective, MT was chosen purposely as the
> requirement is exclusively for forwarding plane FIB programming isolation
> and not both forwarding and control plane isolation super set provided by
> MI.  This maybe a good point to note as to why MT was chosen.  Also from an
> IGP perspective why ISIS is chosen over OSPF for VTN underlay resource
> provisioning as OSPF does not have a MT concept.
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> Hope this helps.
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> Best regards,
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> Jie
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> *From:* Lsr [mailto:lsr-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Gyan Mishra
> *Sent:* Monday, March 8, 2021 7:29 AM
> *To:* Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>;
> Chongfeng Xie <chongfeng.xie@foxmail.com>; Acee Lindem (acee) <
> acee@cisco.com>; Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>; lsr@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology
> (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” -
> draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03
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> Dear Authors
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> Why was MT chosen and not MI for VTN underlay network slice underpinning.
> MT instances has separate topology but not separate LSDB where MI Multi
> instance RFC 6822 has a separate LSDB for resources isolation and I think
> would be a better fit for VTN underlay provisioning.
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> MI
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> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6822
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> Thanks
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> Gyan
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> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 10:34 AM Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Robert ruminated:
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> That said I think perhaps we are indeed missing LROW WG (Local Routing
> Operations WG) where just like in GROW WG where mainly (Global) BGP
> operational aspects are discussed there could be good place to discuss
> operational aspects of link state protocols deployment and use cases. In
> fact perhaps it would also free some LSR bandwidth to really focus on
> protocol extensions.
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> +1
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> IGPs grew a zoo of horns and bells by now and no'one tells the operators
> which spines are poisonous ;-)
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> --- tony
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