Re: [Lsr] WG adoption call for draft-przygienda-lsr-flood-reflection-01

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Fri, 19 June 2020 19:42 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG adoption call for draft-przygienda-lsr-flood-reflection-01
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Hi All,

I just did a full read-through of -01. Without denigrating any other solutions, I support adoption of this one.

I do have a few comments and nits, below.

- Paragraph 2 of section 9 is unclear, IMO; I hope this can be improved in the next version. It reads exactly like a protocol expert writing for another protocol expert; as we know, a good spec has to be written so that as little as possible is left to the creativity of the implementor. This paragraph seems to require creativity.

- Please decide whether to do the right thing, and call the protocol “IS-IS”, or the wrong thing, and call it “ISIS”. Whatever the decision, standardize on that one instead of randomly adding and dropping hyphens.

- Section 8 mentions “route reflector clients”, probably what was meant was “flood reflector clients”.

Thanks,

—John

> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> wrote:
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> This begins a 2 week WG adoption call for the following draft:
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>  https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-przygienda-lsr-flood-reflection__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!WwSo3XAAATjZjcHHk7EGQ6xt6K1-gAsQFmMVapPciPpj41XxzXiyLxQehiD8ew$
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> The draft would be adopted on the Experimental track.
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> Please indicate your support or objection by June 24, 2020.
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> Authors, please respond to the list indicating whether you are aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
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> Thanks,
> Chris and Acee.