Re: [Lsr] [Teas] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis

"Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com> Wed, 03 March 2021 20:54 UTC

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From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
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Alvaro -

Thanx for chiming in.
Inline.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 12:06 PM
> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com>om>; Christian Hopps
> <chopps@chopps.org>rg>; Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>
> Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>rg>; lsr@ietf.org; lsr-ads@ietf.org; lsr-
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> Subject: RE: [Lsr] [Teas] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis
> 
> On March 3, 2021 at 2:47:38 PM, Les Ginsberg wrote:
> > > From: Lsr On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody
> 
> Les:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> ...
> > > (1) Is it wise to use normative keywords MUST and SHOULD in the
> > > appendix? The text is from section 3.1 but can it be reworded in the
> > > appendix? Also wondering if other changes (IANA, nits) could be listed
> > > or we could call it "major change" :)
> >
> > [Les:] I personally do not have an issue using the normative keywords in
> > the Appendix. Not doing so I think might trigger someone to ask if there is
> > some inconsistency between the Appendix text and the text in the body of
> the
> > draft. 😊
> >
> > If you know of some prohibition against using such keywords in an
> Appendix
> > please provide the reference.
> 
> There's no specific prohibition against it -- in fact, sometimes an
> appendix can be normative so it is completely appropriate to have
> normative language.
> 
> In this case, the appendix is informative and the normative text is
> only reflecting what the main body of the draft says (which is where
> the specification is).  To avoid confusion about which piece of text
> is normative, and keep consistency, I would recommend using quotes in
> the appendix:
> 
> OLD>
>    1.  The Router ID SHOULD be identical to the value advertised in the
>    Traffic Engineering Router ID TLV (134) if available.
> 
> NEW>
>    1.  The "Router ID SHOULD be identical" to the value advertised in the
>    Traffic Engineering Router ID TLV (134) if available (Section 3.1).
> 

[Les:] So I am willing to make the change. But I have to say that for me as a reader the use of quotes as you suggest does not aid clarity.
I have no idea why the entire sentence should not be quoted as without the unquoted portion of the sentence the meaning of the quoted part is incomplete.

??

   Les

> 
> Alvaro.