Re: [Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call for draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02 + IPR poll.

Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> Thu, 14 February 2019 15:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Lsr] 答复: WG Adoption Call for draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02 + IPR poll.
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Hi folks,

It's not useful for people to be adding a bunch of extra qualifications and caveats to the adoption poll.

This is not a dual adoption poll. We are not calling for adoption of an unwritten, unfinished algorithm document. That makes no sense; we adopt reviewed acceptable work, not the promise of it. We're also not going to hold up standardizing the signaling work waiting on unfinished algorithm work, that's literally the opposite of the goal here which is to un-tie these two things so we can make progress on both in parallel.

Thanks,
Chris.

Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> writes:

> Hi, Christian:
>
> Supports for the adoption of two drafts at the same time, in which
> one(draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02) focuses on the centralized mode and
> the other(draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-01) focuses on the distributed
> mode.
>
> The centralized mode for is one straightforward way to realize the flooding
> reduction, and I admire Tony Li give his solution first. But from the
> consideration of solution robustness, the distributed mode may be more
> promising.
> My consideration for distributed mode is that it should not cover only the
> algorithm, more contents need to be standardized in future. Huaimo has one
> good start point for distributed mode, and he also gives abundant thoughts
> for the centralized mode that the current version of
> draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02 has not covered yet.
>
> Proposal for the name of two drafts may be
> draft-ietf-lsr-flooding-reduction-centralized-mode and
> draft-ietf-lsr-flooding-reduction-distributed-mode.
>
>
> Best Regards.
>
> Aijun Wang
> Network R&D and Operation Support Department
> China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, China.
>
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Christian Hopps [mailto:chopps@chopps.org]
> 发送时间: 2019年2月11日 18:45
> 收件人: lsr@ietf.org
> 抄送: lsr-chairs@ietf.org; lsr-ads@ietf.org; chopps@chopps.org
> 主题: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call for draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02 + IPR
> poll.
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> We are starting a 2 week adoption call on draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02.
>
> The aim of this document is to describe the problem space and standardize a
> way to signal dynamic flooding information. It does not standardize any
> specific algorithm for flooding topology creation.
>
> Authors please respond indicating if you are aware of any IPR related to
> this work.
>
> We also have another draft (draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-01) that started
> as a distributed flooding topology algorithm and morphed into that plus
> competing ideas on signaling of flooding topology information. The intent
> after adoption of draft-li-lsr-dynamic-flooding-02 is two-fold. One, the WG
> can discuss adding any signaling ideas from this work to the adopted
> signaling draft (with proper attribution given as appropriate), and two, for
> the authors of draft-cc-lsr-flooding-reduction-01 to publish a new document
> without the signaling portion and instead focus on their flooding topology
> algorithm. This new focused document can be considered in parallel along
> with the other algorithm work that has been proposed.
>
> Flooding topology creation is seen as a hard problem for which we don't
> expect a one-size-fits-all solution. Taking the steps outlined above will
> help us move forward on the solutions.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris & Acee.
> LSR WG Chairs.