Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

Harold Liu <harold.liu@ericsson.com> Mon, 21 June 2021 01:01 UTC

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From: Harold Liu <harold.liu@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt
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Hi Med and All:
       Thanks for your helpful comments, I have updated a new version 01 to follow the comments;
       The main updating is:
       1. More clearly described the intend of this draft in the introduction;
       2. Change the reference style;
       3. Refactor the reference section to make it more reasonable;
       4. I haven't change "IANA Consideration" at the moment given there is lots of discussion in this part and it is still up in the air, I will change this section next update the document once this part is finalized;

       And I would like to share more background information for this internet draft:
       As Joel mentioned, we requested and received an IF Type assignment from IANA (with expert review) for point-to-point over Ethernet links several weeks ago and the p2pOverLan type is already added to IANA registry now;
       During the discussion around the assignment we noticed a doc describing why that is needed and how to use that would be helpful;
       For example, if no entry saying p2pOverLan layer over ethernet, the management will suffer since lose the ability to get to the Ethernet-specific management properties (Ethernet MIB or YANG model) via many tools; So we propose this draft to define a complete p2pOverLan ifStack(Including higher layer and lower layer);

Brs

-----Original Message-----
From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 2:16 PM
To: Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com>; draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt

Hi Joel, all, 

Please find some quick comments to this draft, fwiw:

* pdf: https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=e8e7d1aa-b77ce948-e8e79131-86073b36ea28-edbd778070bbec9a&q=1&e=d4a020c9-b337-41fd-bf1b-56dcfaef1044&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fboucadair%2FIETF-Drafts-Reviews%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2Fdraft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00-rev%2520Med.pdf
* doc: https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=938b5849-cc1060ab-938b18d2-86073b36ea28-e0406a2599fa2a6d&q=1&e=d4a020c9-b337-41fd-bf1b-56dcfaef1044&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fboucadair%2FIETF-Drafts-Reviews%2Fraw%2Fmaster%2Fdraft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00-rev%2520Med.docx 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Lsr [mailto:lsr-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Joel M. Halpern 
> Envoyé : mercredi 16 juin 2021 22:47 À : Acee Lindem (acee) 
> <acee@cisco.com>; lsr@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action:
> draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt
> 
> This document (and the code point) are intended to be in line with 
> 5309.
>   I believe they are.  If we got it wrong, please help us fix it.
> 
> A reference would be reasonable to add.  (The IANA entry for the code 
> point does reference 5309.)
> 
> Thank you,
> Joel
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/16/2021 4:41 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > At first I wondered where this document should reside and then
> decided that LSR is probably as good as any other place.
> >
> > Can you guys check whether it is mostly in line with
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5309/ and comment as to whether it 
> should be referenced?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Acee
> >
> >
> > On 6/16/21, 11:10 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Joel M. Halpern" <lsr-
> bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> >
> >      Recently, Ericsson requested and received an IF Type
> assignment from
> >      IANA (with expert review) for point-to-point over Ethernet
> links.
> >
> >      It was noted during the discussion around the assignment that
> a document
> >      (eventually, we hope, an RFC) describing how to use that and
> why we
> >      asked for it would be helpful.
> >
> >      The below announcement is that draft.  We would like to work
> with the
> >      community to improve and clarify teh draft.
> >
> >      Thank you,
> >      Joel
> >
> >
> >      -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >      Subject: I-D Action: draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt
> >      Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 07:00:04 -0700
> >      From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> >      Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> >      To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> >
> >
> >      A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-
> Drafts
> >      directories.
> >
> >
> >               Title           : Interface Stack Table Definition
> for Point to
> >      Point (P2P) Interface over LAN
> >               Authors         : Daiying Liu
> >                                 Joel Halpern
> >                                 Congjie Zhang
> >      	Filename        : draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan-00.txt
> >      	Pages           : 7
> >      	Date            : 2021-06-16
> >
> >      Abstract:
> >          The point-to-point circuit type is one of the mainly used
> circuit
> >          types in link state routing protocol.  It is important to
> identify
> >          the correct circuit type when forming adjacencies,
> flooding link
> >          state database packets, and monitor the link state.  This
> document
> >          defines point-to-point interface type and relevant stack
> tables to
> >          provide benefit for operation, maintenance and
> statistics.
> >
> >
> >      The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> >      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lsr-p2poverlan/
> >
> >      There is also an htmlized version available at:
> >      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-liu-lsr-
> p2poverlan-00
> >
> >
> >      Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> >      ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> >
> >
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