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Re: [Lsvr] Comments on LSVR with RR peering

Eric Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> Wed, 05 December 2018 21:09 UTC

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From: Eric Rosen <erosen@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Comments on LSVR with RR peering
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Perhaps the authors can clarify what they meant by "BGP speakers peer 
solely with one or more ... controllers".

On 12/5/2018 3:58 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> i think i see the disconnect
>
>>>> RR--1--A--1--B--1--C--1--D--1--E
>>>>                 |                 |
>>>>                 |-----5-----F--1--|
>>>>
>>>> The letters represent routers (RR being the Route Reflector), and the
>>>> numbers are link metrics.
> B, C, D, E, and F may not be clients of RR.  2.2 says you can use
> loopbacks.  this does not imply that you can multi-hop peer a la ibgp.
> hence, 2.3 does not allow multi-hop.
>
> or i am still confused.
>
> randy

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