Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry
Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Mon, 18 July 2011 17:37 UTC
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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
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How do we know governments will last that long? Very few institutions have existed more than a few hundred years without major changes in function and structure. Oxford was founded as a religious community and only made training for the priesthood the primary purpose in the middle ages. The idea of being a general purpose educator comes from the Victorian era. What I like about the Harber & Stornetta approach is that it allows multiple archives to be bound together in ways that makes their integrity interdependent. On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:32 PM, todd glassey <tglassey@earthlink.net>wrote: > ** > On 7/18/2011 5:07 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Peter Sylvester < > peter.sylvester@edelweb.fr> wrote: > >> The purpose of hash linking schemes is to link time stamps together and >> to be able to verify them without the need of any cryptographic key >> which have the tendency to have their secrecy evaporate. >> > > Its not the secrecy that worries me, its the ability to state with > confidence that the TSA will be around after the commercial incentive is > gone. > > Its pretty easy to build a business case to support a registry of digital > signatures on mortgage notes to last 30-50 odd years. There is a lot of > money at stake and there will always be someone collecting on the note. > > The problem is that we only have this type of business models for a small > number of signatures and they are pretty boring applications. That still > leaves open the question of how we make digital libraries as authentic and > trustworthy as paper ones used to be. > > Print is dead. In 100 years time nobody will be printing books other than > for religious or sentimental reasons. People can argue about whether that > should happen but it is very clear that it will happen. > > A couple of years ago GM went bankrupt. A couple of weeks ago the worlds > largest circulation tabloid went out of business despite robust profits. How > can we say with confidence that a TSA is going to be around in 100 years > time? > > > By making it a government service so it is not tied to the marketspace... > > Why do you think Certichron does what it does - by the way - we just opened > the 10th NIST Server we operate! > > Todd > > > > > >> >> > -- > Website: http://hallambaker.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > ltans mailing listltans@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltans > > > > -- > Todd S. Glassey > This is from my personal email account and any materials from this account come with personal disclaimers. > > Further I OPT OUT of any and all commercial emailings. > > > _______________________________________________ > ltans mailing list > ltans@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltans > > -- Website: http://hallambaker.com/
- [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Peter Sylvester
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Peter Sylvester
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry todd glassey
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Peter Sylvester
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry todd glassey
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry todd glassey