Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry

Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> Mon, 18 July 2011 15:39 UTC

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Well,
not to be boring: the mentioned scenario is exactly one of the reasons 
why we did ERS (rfc4998) and XMLERS (rfc6283) - to be able to renew 
before or in case of a trust anchor goes bust.

Best regards, Tobias




On 18/07/11 13:07, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Peter Sylvester 
> <peter.sylvester@edelweb.fr <mailto:peter.sylvester@edelweb.fr>> wrote:
>
>     The purpose of hash linking schemes is to link time stamps
>     together and
>     to be able to verify them without the need of any cryptographic key
>     which have the tendency to have their secrecy evaporate.
>
>
> Its not the secrecy that worries me, its the ability to state with 
> confidence that the TSA will be around after the commercial incentive 
> is gone.
>
> Its pretty easy to build a business case to support a registry of 
> digital signatures on mortgage notes to last 30-50 odd years. There is 
> a lot of money at stake and there will always be someone collecting on 
> the note.
>
> The problem is that we only have this type of business models for a 
> small number of signatures and they are pretty boring applications. 
> That still leaves open the question of how we make digital libraries 
> as authentic and trustworthy as paper ones used to be.
>
> Print is dead. In 100 years time nobody will be printing books other 
> than for religious or sentimental reasons. People can argue about 
> whether that should happen but it is very clear that it will happen.
>
> A couple of years ago GM went bankrupt. A couple of weeks ago the 
> worlds largest circulation tabloid went out of business despite robust 
> profits. How can we say with confidence that a TSA is going to be 
> around in 100 years time?
>
> -- 
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