Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry
Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> Mon, 18 July 2011 15:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry
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Well, not to be boring: the mentioned scenario is exactly one of the reasons why we did ERS (rfc4998) and XMLERS (rfc6283) - to be able to renew before or in case of a trust anchor goes bust. Best regards, Tobias On 18/07/11 13:07, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Peter Sylvester > <peter.sylvester@edelweb.fr <mailto:peter.sylvester@edelweb.fr>> wrote: > > The purpose of hash linking schemes is to link time stamps > together and > to be able to verify them without the need of any cryptographic key > which have the tendency to have their secrecy evaporate. > > > Its not the secrecy that worries me, its the ability to state with > confidence that the TSA will be around after the commercial incentive > is gone. > > Its pretty easy to build a business case to support a registry of > digital signatures on mortgage notes to last 30-50 odd years. There is > a lot of money at stake and there will always be someone collecting on > the note. > > The problem is that we only have this type of business models for a > small number of signatures and they are pretty boring applications. > That still leaves open the question of how we make digital libraries > as authentic and trustworthy as paper ones used to be. > > Print is dead. In 100 years time nobody will be printing books other > than for religious or sentimental reasons. People can argue about > whether that should happen but it is very clear that it will happen. > > A couple of years ago GM went bankrupt. A couple of weeks ago the > worlds largest circulation tabloid went out of business despite robust > profits. How can we say with confidence that a TSA is going to be > around in 100 years time? > > -- > Website: http://hallambaker.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > ltans mailing list > ltans@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltans
- [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Peter Sylvester
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Peter Sylvester
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry todd glassey
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Peter Sylvester
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry todd glassey
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [ltans] Harber and Stornetta expiry todd glassey