RE: [Ltru] Re: John Cowan throws in the towel on extlangs

Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Sat, 01 December 2007 18:37 UTC

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From: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>
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> From: Doug Ewell [mailto:dewell@roadrunner.com]


> >> 4)  We need a tag for written Cantonese used in subtitles, and today
> >> we use "zh-yue."
> >
> > That will still be valid, but deprecated; you'd be encouraged to
> > switch to "yue".
>
> Then if they currently use "zh-cmn" for some Mandarin purpose, wouldn't
> they be equally encouraged to switch to "cmn"?

There was a time when Traditional Chinese content was often tagged zh-TW and Simplified Chinese content was tagged zh-CN. There's been some transition in industry here, though I don't know how much inappropriate use of zh-TW or zh-CN still lingers. (Of course, in terms of this issue, zh-CN and zh-TW may still be appropriate for locale identification.)

Recommending a transition from zh to cmn, yue etc. would have some merits, but making that transition would be much more of an uphill climb.


> "zh" has historically been used to tag much more Mandarin than
> Cantonese
> or any other flavor of Chinese, but "zh" does not specifically mean
> Mandarin.  I was sure you and I agreed on that.

And I'm quite certain John has not changed his thoughts in that regard.


Peter
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