Re: [Ltru] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ltru-4646bis and draft-ietf-ltru-matching

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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ltru-4646bis and draft-ietf-ltru-matching
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> On Aug 30, 2019, at 13:06, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:
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> It was only done for macrolanguages that already had compound tags like zh-yue, plus a few others that seemed likely to be treated similiarly, often because they only a single written form between them.  Aymara is a macrolanguage with two individual languages, Central and Southern, but only Central has a written form and is an official language (of Bolivia).  If you don't care about the diffference, you can use ay, or you can use ayc or ayr to distinguish, but nobody has to worry about abstracting over them.

Not sure I get it.

nb is the preferred form of grandfathered+deprecated no-bok, nn of no-nyn, and no is marked as a macrolanguage. Why do they have not extlang?

—Florian