Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion
"Doug Ewell" <dewell@adelphia.net> Thu, 22 June 2006 17:25 UTC
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From: Doug Ewell <dewell@adelphia.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion
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Peter Constable <petercon at microsoft dot com> wrote: > ... We already have a registry in place, one that has a fairly-well > defined conceptual model (in spite of current debate over certain > details) and also established processes for maintenance and > administration -- processes with respect to which we have limitations > in our flexibility to change. I think the "current debate over certain details" is a sign that it might be worthwhile to define the conceptual model more clearly. There is a significant disparity between list members' views of the purpose of the Description field: is it a cross-reference to ISO standards, a string that uniquely identifies the language (script, etc.), an English translation, a language-dependent transliteration, or a prescriptive spelling with "recommended" letters and punctuation? At the very least, even if we decide not to adopt ISO 11179 principles, we should answer this particular question more definitively. > Now, I'm sure that if we studied ISO 11179 we would gain a better > understanding of the nature of our endeavour and that we would find > ways to improve upon what we have. But, I cannot say whether the > cost/benefit ratio would be on the benefit side. The most I can say is > that I have not seen reasons to set an expectation of greater benefit > than cost. All that is being suggested is that we not reject this effort a priori. A few people who are well-versed in the standard can explain its principles to others, and a reasonably well-informed discussion can proceed from there. It's not necessary for every list member to read all 266 pages. I doubt every LTRU member has read ISO 639, 3166, and 15924 in their entirety either. > The relative importance to incorporate ISO 639-3 over implementation > of ISO 11179 is, IMO, a couple of orders of magnitude. Nobody has suggested that we would have to make a choice between incorporating 639-3 and implementing 11179. -- Doug Ewell Fullerton, California, USA http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/ _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
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- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Doug Ewell
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- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Felix Sasaki
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Debbie Garside
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Erkki Kolehmainen
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- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Debbie Garside
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Debbie Garside
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Addison Phillips
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- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Misha Wolf
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Misha Wolf
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- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Misha Wolf
- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Mark Davis
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- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Ted Hardie
- RE: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Debbie Garside
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- Re: [Ltru] Charter Discussion Mark Davis
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