RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes
"Debbie Garside" <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk> Thu, 29 September 2005 19:56 UTC
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From: Debbie Garside <debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk>
To: 'Addison Phillips' <addison.phillips@quest.com>, 'Frank Ellermann' <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>, ltru@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:56:46 +0100
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In a nutshell: "Implementers should note that the set of language tags that match a specific language-range prefix MAY not be mutually intelligible; although historically this form of matching has proved useful." Debbie > -----Original Message----- > From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Addison Phillips > Sent: 29 September 2005 20:19 > To: Addison Phillips; Frank Ellermann; ltru@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes > > Okay, here's what I have now: > > -- > <t>In particular, the set of language tags that match a specific language- > range might not all be mutually intelligible. Matching a language-range > (prefix) to various language tags does not mean that it is always true > that if a user understands a language identified by a certain tag, then > this user will also understand all of the languages for which this tag is > a prefix. The use of prefixes (and thus basic language ranges) allows > languages to be selected as if this were always the case. In many cases, > the language range and the set of language tags associated with it are > mutually intelligible enough to be useful and this form of matching has > historically been to most prevalent. > </t> > > <t>Cases do exist in which care has to be applied to the selection of the > language range. This is especially true when the language range encloses > multiple, widely divergent dialects. For example, the language range "sgn" > (for Sign Languages) describes a wide range of mutually unintelligible > languages. Thus users SHOULD use as many subtags as necessary to describe > something which they would understand.</t> > > <t>Users SHOULD avoid subtags that add no distinguishing value to a > language range. For example, script subtags SHOULD NOT be used to form a > language range with language subtags which have a matching Suppress-Script > field in their registry record. Thus the language range "en-Latn" is > probably inappropriate for most applications (because the vast majority > English documents are written in the Latin script and thus the 'en' > language subtag has a Suppress-Script field for 'Latn' in the registry). > </t> > -- > > Comments? > > Addison > > Addison P. Phillips > Globalization Architect, Quest Software > Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group > > Internationalization is not a feature. > It is an architecture. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Addison Phillips > > Sent: jeudi 29 septembre 2005 08:15 > > To: 'Frank Ellermann'; ltru@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes > > > > +1 > > > > Addison P. Phillips > > Globalization Architect, Quest Software > > Chair, W3C Internationalization Core Working Group > > > > Internationalization is not a feature. > > It is an architecture. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of > > > Frank Ellermann > > > Sent: jeudi 29 septembre 2005 07:58 > > > To: ltru@ietf.org > > > Subject: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes > > > > > > Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > > > > > > > RFC 1766, and I still remember the debate that got us there. > > > > What it's trying to prevent is dialogues like this: > > > > > > > Registrant: I register (or use) sgn-GB and sgn-FR > > > > Searcher: I want something in "sgn". > > > > > > Now that's immediately clear. Maybe adding this as example > > > to Addison's new wording could help. It would explain that > > > matching was already tricky before 3066bis, so that's not a > > > new "bug" introduced by 3066bis, but just as it is. > > > > > > Bye, Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ltru mailing list > > > Ltru@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] matching comments: use of prefixes Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] matching comments: use of prefixes Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Debbie Garside
- [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] matching comments: use of prefixes Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: matching comments: use of prefixes Addison Phillips