RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...
Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Thu, 02 August 2007 17:07 UTC
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From: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>
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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis...
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No, Mark had it right: there is a clear semantic. It just may not correspond to any reality. "ar-Cyrl-CO" unambiguously means 'Arabic language as used in Colombia, written in Cyrllic script". It refers to a unicorn in the realm of languages. Peter > -----Original Message----- > From: Debbie Garside [mailto:debbie@ictmarketing.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:44 AM > To: addison@yahoo-inc.com; 'Marion Gunn' > Cc: 'LTRU Working Group' > Subject: RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... > > Addison wrote: > > > A tag can be valid yet meaningless. > > I don't really like this as it seems, on the face of it, a > contradiction in > terms. I would propose one of the following: > > --- > A tag can be well formed yet meaningless. > > A tag can be well formed in terms of syntax, and thus valid, yet > meaningless > in terms of its attributes. For example, ... > > --- > > Best > > Debbie > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Addison Phillips [mailto:addison@yahoo-inc.com] > > Sent: 31 July 2007 16:52 > > To: Marion Gunn > > Cc: LTRU Working Group > > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... > > > > Marion Gunn wrote: > > > > > > However, here goes with one more attempt: > > > > > > "For example, although a tag such as 'ar-Cyrl-CO' (Arabic, > > as used in > Columbia, > written in Cyrillic script) is > > valid, it is [most] unlikely to be of > use, because > such > > combination of attributes is unlikely to occur in actual > > language > use." > > > > > > > I note that it is useful to look at the actual editor's copy > > when suggesting minor editorial changes. Upon reflection, I > > found the current sentence to be a bit of a run-on. I've > > taken your suggestion of 'unlikely' and edited further such > > that the paragraph now reads: > > > > <t>Validity of a tag is not everything. A tag can be valid > > yet meaningless. This is unavoidable with a generative system > > like the language subtag mechanism. For example, a tag such > > as "ar-Cyrl-CO" > > (Arabic, Cyrillic script, as used in Colombia) is perfectly valid. > > However, it is unlikely to be a useful tag, as it represents > > an unlikely combination of language attributes that is > > probably unrelated to any real language usage.</t> > > > > After five minutes from now, you will need to comment on > > draft-08. I'm always happy to consider editorial changes that > > improve the text. > > > > Addison > > > > -- > > Addison Phillips > > Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc. > > Chair -- W3C Internationalization Core WG > > > > Internationalization is an architecture. > > It is not a feature. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ltru mailing list > > Ltru@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Marion Gunn
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- [Ltru] The third level of conformance (Was: Updat… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Debbie Garside
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... David Dalby
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Updated draft-4646bis... Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Question on variants Karen_Broome
- [Ltru] Serbo-Croatian Deprecations and Variants Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Serbo-Croatian Deprecations and Varian… Addison Phillips