Re: [Ltru] RFC 3282: should we revise it?

John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> Wed, 19 August 2009 16:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ltru] RFC 3282: should we revise it?
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Harald Alvestrand scripsit:

> At the time, it seemed obvious to me that references to a 
> standards-track specification were intended to be "this one or any 
> version that obsoletes it"; it was only later that I discovered that 
> there could be multiple differences of opinion on this even in cases 
> that seemed obvious to me.

Well, yes, except that BCP 47 isn't standards-track.

> If YAM decides that it's ready to go to Standard status, I really don't 
> see any need except for formalism and nitpicking to revise the document 
> at all.

IMHO, the syntax of Content-Language should be tightened to require proper
4646/4646bis language tag syntax, and the laxer syntaxes should be moved to
obs-* productions.


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John Cowan   cowan@ccil.org    http://ccil.org/~cowan
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