Re: [Ltru] Extended language tags

Thanks Mark for the correction, my use of terminology can be sloppy at times ;)


On 05/10/2007, Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org> wrote:
> a small correction:
> >  In this sense extlang reflects the communities understanding of their
> language.
> => In this sense macro languages reflects the communities understanding of
> their language.
>
> While the issue of synonyms is related to the issue of macro language
> registry info vs extlang, they aren't the same.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 10/4/07, Andrew Cunningham <lang.support@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Throwing in my two cents worth:
> >
> > One aspect of language tagging is the preference for the tags to be as
> > specific as possible. In some cases it is desirable to be less
> > specific.
> >
> > An example i mentioned on the teleconference was the case of Dinka. In
> > ISO-639-2 this is represented by the language code "din".
> >
> > While ISO-639-3 have the following language codes:
> >
> > dib     South Central Dinka
> > dik     Southwestern Dinka
> > dip     Northeastern Dinka
> > diw     Northwestern Dinka
> > dks     Southeastern Dinka
> >
> > If I was applying a langauge tag to a Rek grammar, then i'd use "dik",
> > for a collection of Ciec folktales I'd use "dib". For a collection of
> > Bor proverbs I'd use "dks".
> >
> > To describe the literacy materials and class room materials being
> > developed in Australia by the Dinka community, I'd use "din". Within
> > the diaspora and in Australia specifically the literacy and language
> > teachers, translators and interpreters are discussing a standardized
> > approach to written Dinka.
> >
> > The original SPLA/M education policies highlighted Rek as a standard
> > for written Dinka. What seems to be occurring is an amalgam based on
> > Rek, but including aspects and vocab from other Dinka dialects. There
> > will be a locally hosted conference next year to thrash out some of
> > the issues.
> >
> > In this context "din": would be the most appropriate way of tagging
> > the new educational material, while keeping the existing five
> > iso-639-3 language tags to more accurately describe information and
> > data written in one of the 20 odd specific dialects.
> >
> > from the perspective of the user community, an extlang approach would
> > make more sense, i.e. Rek labeled as "din-dik" makes more sense than
> > "dik". To the community Rek is a Dinka langauge, Dinak Rek, not a
> > separate language called Rek.
> >
> > In this sense extlang reflects the communities understanding of their
> language.
> >
> > This is just an observation, i'm neither for or against extlang.
> >
> > Although from the perspective of web development and how CSS and web
> > browsers handle psuedo langauge selectors and attribute selectors, I'd
> > suggest that extlang approach simplifies things for those rare
> > individuals amongst us that use these selectors.
> >
> > Andrew
> > --
> > Andrew Cunningham
> > State Library of Victoria, Australia
> >
> > andrewc@vicnet.net.au
> > lang.support@gmail.com
> >
> >
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>
> --
> Mark


-- 
Andrew Cunningham
Language IT support
Dinka Language Institute
Australia
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