Re: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: summary ofrecommendations coming out of this week's teleconf
Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Thu, 06 December 2007 05:21 UTC
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To: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>, LTRU Working Group <ltru@ietf.org>
From: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Subject: Re: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: summary ofrecommendations coming out of this week's teleconf
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At 06:59 07/12/04, Peter Constable wrote: >> From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzmeyer@nic.fr] >> Warning, it means that tags which were well-formed in RFC 4646 (but >> not valid since no extlang was registered) won't be well-formed >> anymore. Isn't a violation of the stability principle? (Yes, the >> "extlang" production in RFC 4646 was marked as "reserved for future >> use" but it was legal nevertheless.) > >Correct. Since there have never been registered extlang subtags, there >might be parsers that allow for it but there should not be any tags that >include them. If some such tags are out there in the wild, they would be >well-formed but not valid in 4646, and neither well-formed nor valid in >4646bis (under this proposal). My understanding is that if we leave the production in the ABNF, such tags would still be well-formed. I don't think we can have it both ways. The tags would be well-formed but obsolete. I think we should be very clear about what the consequences of our draft are. I think we are extremely clear on the fact that we don't want anybody to generate tags with extlangs (except for a few pre- registered ones (*)). But what about applications receiving these tags? Are we okay with applications that accept tags with extlangs as well-formed? Are we okay with applications that don't accept tags with extlangs as well-formed? Are we okay with both? What does that mean for existing implementations? Regards, Martin. #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] summary of recommendations coming out of t… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] summary of recommendations coming out … Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: summary of… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: summar… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: su… Felix Sasaki
- RE: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? Kent Karlsson
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Ira McDonald
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Addison Phillips
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Ira McDonald
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Felix Sasaki
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Ira McDonald
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] RE: Remove extlang from ABNF? (Was: su… Martin Duerst
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Shawn Steele
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Remove extlang from ABNF? Marion Gunn