RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang

"Don Osborn" <dzo@bisharat.net> Sun, 18 March 2007 19:14 UTC

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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang
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Thanks Frank for the summary list and Mark for the pointer. Actually I was going to reference that page and ask if it is exactly what is in question.

 

Next (trying my luck here), is there any kind of way(s) that these can be subgrouped? For instance ar ends up referring to standard Arabic, if I understand correctly, and zh has been discussed already a lot; but some other macrolanguages do not necessarily have a single standard form. Some (macro) languages have a lot more in writing than others. What I’m getting at is are there different sets of (possible) complications that can be identified for the macrolanguages, languages and extlang relationships, such that the list of 54 can be disaggregated (perhaps in more than one way)? 

 

Not as if folks don’t have enough else to think about, but it seems like such an analysis, if it hasn’t been done, might raise other productive questions. 

 

Don

 

 

 

 

 

From: Mark Davis [mailto:mark.davis@icu-project.org] 
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 2:37 PM
To: Frank Ellermann
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang

 

Another way to look at it is on http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/macrolanguages.asp, which provides the language names and breakdowns.

Mark



On 3/18/07, Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> wrote:

Don Osborn wrote:

> what is the actual number of (macro)languages where extlang issues arise?

I try to determine this "manually" for Doug's latest 4645bis:
There are 480 "Prefix:" lines in the extlang part. 

ar      30              ay       2              az       2
bal      3              bik      5              bua      3
chm      2              cr       6              del      2
den      2              din      5              doi      2 
fa       2              ff       9              gba      5
gn       5              gon      2              grb      5
hai      2              hmn     21              ik       2
iu       2              jrb      5              kg       3 
kok      2              kpe      2              kr       3
ku       3              kv       2              lah      8
man      7              mg      10              mn       2
ms      13              mwr      6              oc       5 
oj       7              om       4              ps       3
qu      44              raj      6              rom      7
sc       4              sgn     124             sq       4
sw       2              syr      2              tnh      4 
uz       2              yi       2              za       2
zap     58              zh      13              zza      2

That's 54 at the moment.

Frank



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