Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-transliteration-tags-01.txt
"Doug Ewell" <doug@ewellic.org> Wed, 15 June 2011 19:30 UTC
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From: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-transliteration-tags-01.txt
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Mark Davis 🍣 <mark at macchiato dot com> wrote: > There are major problems with that approach. Where should comments > be directed? One of the major problems with this draft, which hasn't been mentioned yet, is that RFC 5646, Section 3.7 sets out specific requirements for extensions. It's not enough just to have an RFC that proposes singletons: the singletons must be formally communicated to IANA and added to the extensions registry, there must be a registry of valid subtags, there must be a registering authority and discussion mailing list, etc. The present draft does not meet any of these requirements. The draft states that the 's' singleton would be followed by "the ISO 15924 for the source script" (part of the draft's underlying misconception that ISO code elements, not subtags from the LSR, are directly used in language tags) and that the 't' singleton would be followed by "a 2-8 character alphanumeric string abbreviation of the transliteration system," There is no list, or pointer to a list, of 't' subtags, nor any indication or assurance of their stability as required by Section 3.7. The draft says there are no IANA considerations, which is far from true for a BCP 47 extension. A comparison with RFC 6067 (the 'u' extension) would be helpful in understanding how the BCP 47 requirements should be fulfilled. While I was surprised by the RFC 6067 implementation of "registry" as a set of CLDR XML files, there is definitely a well-defined, freely accessible list of subtags, a mailing list where users can ask questions about then, and a process for proposing new ones. I am a believer in the concept of BCP 47 extensions and would welcome a better-conceived proposal that follows the BCP 47 rules and takes existing BCP 47 mechanisms into better account (e.g. variant subtags already exist for several transliteration systems). The present proposal is not suitable. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, Colorado, USA | RFC 5645, 4645, UTN #14 www.ewellic.org | www.facebook.com/doug.ewell | @DougEwell
- [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-transliteration… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Mark Davis ☕
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Mark Davis ☕
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Courtney Falk
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Mark Davis ☕
- Re: [Ltru] Fw: I-D Action: draft-falk-translitera… Martin J. Dürst