[Ltru] Use of the string "microlangauges"
"Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn@mindspring.com> Thu, 30 August 2007 18:28 UTC
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Subject: [Ltru] Use of the string "microlangauges"
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Hi - As co-chair... > From: "Marion Gunn" <mgunn@egt.ie> > To: "LTRU Working Group" <ltru@ietf.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang > > On 29 Aug 2007, at 13:13, scríobh John Cowan: > > > Note that it's the "microlanguages" (not an official term), the > > languages > > encompassed by macrolanguages, that are handled by extlang subtags... > > > > I strongly object to the use of the above unofficial term, which John On what grounds? If the string '"microlanguages" (not an official term)' is objectionable to you as a shorthand for "language tag which are constructed by joining an extlang representing an macrolanguage and an additional subtag to identify the specific language" (or something like that), please suggest a concise alternative suitable for use in our discussion. > Cowan is now using this list to promote (as evidenced in a recent msg > from him, as cited below) and I believe that, if the administrators > of this list _fail_ to deprecate his use of such an objectionable > term, that this may be an appropriate time for representatives of the > National Bodies of governments of the countries whose indigenous > languages he has so denigrated (by his deliberate use of said > unofficial term) to withdraw any provisional support they may have > given until now to the use of the term "macrolanguages" (because that > provisional support for treating that term as "official" would seem > to be providing the opportunity to use an objectionable word to > denigrate languages without even naming them). ... Participation in the IETF is by individuals, not National Body representatives. Calls such as this are meaningless. We use "unofficial terms" all the time. Honestly, I completely fail to see how "microlanguage" (formed by obvious analogy from "macrolanguage") to describe language tags formed in a particular way could be though to "denigrate" a language. Randy _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subtag Re… Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subtag Re… Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Gerard Meijssen
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subta… David Conrad
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: IANA, UTF-8 and the Language Subta… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- [Ltru] Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Don Osborn
- Re: [Ltru] Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Addison Phillips
- [Ltru] Re: Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] RE: Numerical region subtags (RE: extlang) Don Osborn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] extlang Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Use of the string "microlangauges" Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Karen_Broome
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang GerardM
- [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: extlang Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] Availability of ISO documents (Was: extlang Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Availability of ISO documents (Was: ex… John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: Availability of ISO documents (Was: ex… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Availability of ISO documents (Was: ex… Marion Gunn