Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang

"Mark Davis" <mark.davis@icu-project.org> Thu, 30 August 2007 21:50 UTC

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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:49:56 -0700
From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
To: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang
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I agree. It is obvious that John was not implying anything about the value
of the languages.

Mark

On 8/30/07, Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> I think it's fairly obvious that John was using the term as a convenience
> for our discussions with purely technical meaning that does not in any way
> imply a value judgment on any language variety.
>
> For that matter, "macrolanguage" as defined in ISO 639-3 also does not
> connote any value judgment on language varieties so designated, or even on
> their sociolinguistic status. It has a technical meaning given in ISO 639-3
> that, I think, is clear in this regard.
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marion Gunn [mailto:mgunn@egt.ie]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:05 AM
> > To: LTRU Working Group
> > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: extlang
> >
> > On 29 Aug 2007, at 13:13, scríobh John Cowan:
> >
> > > Note that it's the "microlanguages" (not an official term), the
> > > languages
> > > encompassed by macrolanguages, that are handled by extlang subtags...
> > >
> >
> > I strongly object to the use of the above unofficial term, which John
> > Cowan is now using this list to promote (as evidenced in a recent msg
> > from him, as cited below) and I believe that, if the administrators
> > of this list _fail_ to deprecate his use of such an objectionable
> > term, that this may be an appropriate time for representatives of the
> > National Bodies of governments of the countries whose indigenous
> > languages he has so denigrated (by his deliberate use of said
> > unofficial term) to withdraw any provisional support they may have
> > given until now to the use of the term "macrolanguages" (because that
> > provisional support for treating that term as "official" would seem
> > to be providing the opportunity to use an objectionable word to
> > denigrate languages without even naming them).
> > mg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - -
> > Marion Gunn * EGTeo (Estab.1991)
> > 27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn, Baile an
> > Bhóthair, Co. Átha Cliath, Éire.
> > * mgunn@egt.ie * eamonn@egt.ie *
> >
> >
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Mark
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