Re: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections in 639
John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> Tue, 08 January 2008 00:27 UTC
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To: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>
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Peter Constable scripsit: > Update on this: I've got agreement in principle from LOC to change > entries of the form "Foo (Other)" to "Foo languages" in ISO 639-2. In doing > this, they want to provide some info as to which individual-language entries > in 639-2 are encompassed within each collection so that applications can > derive "other" groups if that's how they want to use them. So, I'm not sure > just how quickly that change will appear in the code tables on the 639-2 > site. (I wouldn't expect to see a change on the 639-3 site until that has > changed on the 639-2 site.) Pulling together the Ethnologue 14 data, we find the following, which is probably out of date in some places -- someone needs to go through the 639-2 registrations since 2002 (Doug?) Afro-Asiatic (Other) [afa] includes: ber Berber (Other) [collective] cop Coptic cus Cushitic (Other) [collective] hau Hausa sem Semitic (Other) [collective] wal Walamo Altaic (Other) [tut] includes: aze Azerbaijani bak Bashkir bua Buriat chg Chagatai chv Chuvash kaa Kara-Kalpak kaz Kazakh kir Kirghiz kum Kumyk mnc Manchu mon Mongolian tat Tatar tur Turkish ota Turkish, Ottoman (1500-1928) tuk Turkmen tyv Tuvinian uig Uighur uzb Uzbek sah Yakut Austronesian (Other) [map] includes: ace Achinese ban Balinese btk Batak (Indonesia) bug Buginese cmc Chamic languages [collective] cha Chamorro chk Chuukese day Dayak fij Fijian gay Gayo gil Gilbertese gor Gorontalo haw Hawaiian iba Iban ind Indonesian jav Javanese kos Kosraean mad Madurese mak Makasar mlg Malagasy may Malay mdr Mandar mao Maori mah Marshall min Minangkabau nau Nauru nia Nias niu Niuean pau Palauan phi Philippine (Other) [collective] pon Pohnpeian rap Rapanui rar Rarotongan smo Samoan sas Sasak sun Sundanese tah Tahitian tet Tetum tkl Tokelau ton Tonga (Tonga Islands) tvl Tuvalu yap Yapese Baltic (Other) [bal] includes: lav Latvian lit Lithuanian Bantu (Other) [bnt] includes: bai Bamileke languages [collective] bas Basa bem Bemba nya Chichewa; Nyanja dua Duala eka Ekajuk ewo Ewondo fan Fang lug Ganda her Herero kam Kamba kik Kikuyu kmb Kimbundu kin Kinyarwanda kon Kongo kua Kuanyama lam Lamba lin Lingala loz Lozi lub Luba-Katanga lua Luba-Lulua lun Lunda lol Mongo nde Ndebele, North nbl Ndebele, South ndo Ndonga nym Nyamwezi nyn Nyankole nyo Nyoro run Rundi sna Shona nso Sotho, Northern sot Sotho, Southern suk Sukuma swa Swahili ssw Swati tiv Tiv tog Tonga (Nyasa) tso Tsonga tsn Tswana tum Tumbuka umb Umbundu ven Venda xho Xhosa yao Yao zul Zulu Berber (Other) [ber] includes: kab Kabyle tmh Tamashek zen Zenaga Celtic (Other) [cel] includes: bre Breton cor Cornish gla Gaelic (Scots) gle Irish glv Manx wel Welsh Creoles and Pidgins (Other) [crp] includes: chn Chinook jargon cpe Creoles and pidgins, English based (Other) [collective] cpf Creoles and pidgins, French-based (Other) [collective] cpp Creoles and pidgins, Portuguese-based (Other) [collective] hmo Hiri Motu pap Papiamento sag Sango Creoles and pidgins, English based (Other) [cpe] includes: bis Bislama tpi Tok Pisin Creoles and pidgins, French-based (Other) [cpf] includes: nothing Creoles and pidgins, Portuguese-based (Other) [cpp] includes: nothing Cushitic (Other) [cus] includes: aar Afar bej Beja orm Oromo sid Sidamo som Somali Dravidian (Other) [dra] includes: gon Gondi kan Kannada kru Kurukh mal Malayalam tam Tamil tel Telugu Finno-Ugrian (Other) [fiu] includes: est Estonian fin Finnish hun Hungarian kom Komi chm Mari smi Sami languages (Other) [collective] vot Votic Germanic (Other) [gem] includes: afr Afrikaans dan Danish dut Dutch eng English fao Faroese fry Frisian ger German got Gothic ice Icelandic ltz Letzeburgesch nds Low German; Low Saxon nor Norwegian sco Scots swe Swedish Indic (Other) [inc] includes: asm Assamese awa Awadhi ben Bengali bho Bhojpuri bih Bihari bra Braj div Divehi doi Dogri guj Gujarati him Himachali hin Hindi kas Kashmiri kok Konkani lah Lahnda mag Magahi mai Maithili mar Marathi mwr Marwari nep Nepali ori Oriya pli Pali pan Panjabi raj Rajasthani rom Romany san Sanskrit snd Sindhi sin Sinhalese urd Urdu Indo-European (Other) [ine] includes: alb Albanian arm Armenian bat Baltic (Other) [collective] cel Celtic (Other) [collective] gem Germanic (Other) [collective] grc Greek, Ancient (to 1453) gre Greek, Modern (1453-) inc Indic (Other) [collective] ira Iranian (Other) [collective] lat Latin roa Romance (Other) [collective] sla Slavic (Other) [collective] Iranian (Other) [ira] includes: ave Avestan bal Baluchi jpr Judeo-Persian kur Kurdish oss Ossetian; Ossetic per Persian pus Pushto tgk Tajik Khoisan (Other) [khi] includes: sad Sandawe Mon-Khmer (Other) includes: kha Khasi khm Khmer vie Vietnamese Niger-Kordofanian (Other) [nic] includes: ada Adangme aka Akan bam Bambara bad Banda bnt Bantu (Other) [collective] bin Bini dyu Dyula efi Efik ewe Ewe fat Fanti fon Fon ful Fulah gaa Ga gba Gbaya ibo Igbo ijo Ijo kpe Kpelle kro Kru man Mandingo men Mende mos Mossi nzi Nzima srr Serer snk Soninke sus Susu tem Timne twi Twi vai Vai wol Wolof yor Yoruba znd Zande Nilo-Saharan (Other) [ssa] includes: ach Acoli din Dinka kau Kanuri luo Luo (Kenya and Tanzania) mas Masai nub Nubian languages [collective] son Songhai Romance (Other) [roa] includes: ast Asturian; Bable cat Catalan cos Corsican fre French fur Friulian glg Gallegan ita Italian lad Ladino mol Moldavian oci Occitan (post 1500); Proven�al por Portuguese roh Raeto-Romance rum Romanian srd Sardinian spa Spanish Sami languages (Other) [smi] includes: sme Northern Sami Semitic (Other) [sem] includes: amh Amharic ara Arabic arc Aramaic gez Geez heb Hebrew jrb Judeo-Arabic mlt Maltese sam Samaritan Aramaic syr Syriac tig Tigre tir Tigrinya Sino-Tibetan (Other) [sit] includes: bur Burmese chi Chinese dzo Dzongkha kac Kachin kar Karen lus Lushai mni Manipuri new Newari tib Tibetan Slavic (Other) [sla] includes: bel Belarusian bos Bosnian bul Bulgarian chu Church Slavic scr Croatian cze Czech mac Macedonian pol Polish rus Russian scc Serbian slo Slovak slv Slovenian wen Sorbian languages [collective] ukr Ukrainian Tai (Other) [tai] includes: lao Lao shn Shan tha Thai zha Zhuang -- A witness cannot give evidence of his John Cowan age unless he can remember being born. cowan@ccil.org --Judge Blagden http://www.ccil.org/~cowan _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] action item: "other" collections in 639 Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] action item: "other" collections in 639 Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections in 639 Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections in 639 Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Mark Davis
- RE: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] ISO 639, RFC 464* & African languages Don Osborn
- [Ltru] Re: ISO 639, RFC 464* & African languages Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections in 639 Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections in 639 Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Peter Constable
- RE: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections in 639 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections in 639 Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: action item: "other" collections i… John Cowan