Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr-2004-ORTOGRAF)
Addison Phillips <addison@yahoo-inc.com> Tue, 11 December 2007 19:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr-2004-ORTOGRAF)
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Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:24:32AM -0800, > Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org> wrote > a message of 43 lines which said: > >> In general, the more guidance we can provide reviewers, the more >> defensible their actions become. > > We should ask the current Language Subtag Reviewer but I was under the > impression that he does not want to have too much micro-management of > its actions? > It isn't just the LSR's actions that need defense. We need to provide clarity to registrants and set their expectations. Ultimately, the IESG may be appealed to and they need guidance that non-linguistic experts can understand about what is valid or not for registration. Frankly, the current LSR should have rejected in a clear and unambiguous manner the request from the outset, citing the specific problems in RFC 4646 (it's not a well-formed request). >> where it does make sense to provide better wording on what kinds of >> things are intended for registration and what not, the better off we >> are. > > I agree with the general goal (being precise and transparent) but I > dispute the fact that "vanity subtags" are a serious problem, worth of > an addition to the RFC. +1 to both of you. I think that obvious vanity requests would not be tolerated by the list. But idiosyncratic registrations ought not be ruled out. "Idiosyncratic" is in the eye of the beholder. Even small linguistic communities may find valid uses for a variant. What we need to provide is guidance on when to register a variant versus when to use a private use subtag. The more clarity we provide, the better this will be. That, I believe, is what Mark is trying to accomplish. Addison -- Addison Phillips Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc. Chair -- W3C Internationalization Core WG Internationalization is an architecture. It is not a feature. _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Vanity tags (was: Proposal for a subtag re… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration… Marion Gunn
- [Ltru] RE: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Peter Constable
- Re: [Ltru] RE: Proposal for a subtag registration… Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] RE: Proposal for a subtag registration… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr… Doug Ewell